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burntBREAD
11-28-2010, 09:36 PM
I remember she had a number of step outs, left out a combination, etc and yet she still scored above Mirai who was totally clean....maybe my wanting Mirai to win bronze has fogged my memory though.

She stepped out of the flip and the very last double axel, which was supposed to be in sequence with another double axel. I love Mirai a lot but Joannie was relatively clean, though I was much more impressed by her SP, which I'm sure most people were.

NMURA
11-29-2010, 02:46 AM
Chan = Kim - OGM, definitely

Domshabfan
11-29-2010, 02:56 AM
Yet to compete or not risen to patrick Chan's status, so non of the above

blue_idealist
11-29-2010, 03:40 AM
I remember she had a number of step outs, left out a combination, etc and yet she still scored above Mirai who was totally clean....maybe my wanting Mirai to win bronze has fogged my memory though.

I felt the same about that FS as you did. I don't think it's your brain.

Indra486
11-29-2010, 04:01 AM
:confused: Winning U.S. nationals, the Grand Prix Final, and a bunch of GPs counts for nothing?

I think the OP meant that Sasha didn't win with 3 splats; like her Nationals, small mistake but no splats.

So people are bringing up Lepisto's doubled jumps but to even it up (and yes, people have already named her) what about Carolina's 2008 silver medal? She did triples but they weren't exactly pleasant. :P

ETA: Mirai didn't have a totally clean FS. I thought her her 3toe at the end of her 2a-3Toe combo had a sketchy landing, blade jagging a bit.

riveredge
11-29-2010, 04:56 AM
Chan = Kim - OGM, definitely

And..you're a joke. :lol:

PUNKPRINCESS
11-29-2010, 05:18 AM
Michelle Kwan
Irina Slutskaya
(when not competing against each other)

Peggy Fleming
:eek:

pumba
11-29-2010, 08:40 AM
Kim Yuna, Joannie Rochette, but not as much as Chan

Artifice
11-29-2010, 09:48 AM
But Yuna didn't win with a splat fest like Chan did. To me Yuna's occasional mistakes were not so big, and her wins even with a few mistakes were not surprising IMO. On the contrary Lepisto's good ranking where unfair because her PCS shouldn't have been enough to compensate her lack of jump content.

RunnersHigh
11-29-2010, 03:13 PM
Caroline Zhang?! :eek: Her PCS have never gone higher than 53, I think!

ITA. Caroline has been :wuzrobbed since after her debut on senior circuit.

wonderlen
11-29-2010, 03:31 PM
I felt the same about that FS as you did. I don't think it's your brain.

I agree too. Its a pretty close fight for bronze between Joannie and Marai. I would have give it to Marai. If Marai has more successfully GPF series, she would have more brownie points from the judges. Her SP was totally underscore and deserved to be at least 68-70 range. Also there is the questionable tech call on one of her spin (i think its the layback spin) where she got level 4 and huge +GOE on SP, but was only marked Level 1 in the FS.
I think the Olympics podium was pretty much already picked out, just like in 2006. :sheep:

wonderlen
11-29-2010, 03:34 PM
No ladies ever land on podium with 3 splats (4 if you include SP) too.

RunnersHigh
11-29-2010, 03:43 PM
Chan = Kim - OGM, definitely

Really think so? I prepared this for you. Guess who's protocols below were?

Program......... TES....... PCS.... Ded
Event 1 SP..... 20.00.... 28.95.... -1
Event 1 FS..... 32.23.... 56.22.... -3
Event 2 SP..... 24.66.... 27.44.... -2
Event 2 FS..... 41.70.... 56.22...... 0
Total............. 118.59.. 168.83.... -6
PCS%TES....... 142.36%
-------------------------------------------------------------

Belows were Miki ANDO's protocols who won both CoC and CoR.
Program......... TES....... PCS.... Ded
10 CoC SP...... 27.99.... 28.12... 0
10 CoC FS...... 60.50.... 55.60... 0
10 CoR SP...... 27.03.... 26.97... 0
10 CoR FS...... 62.65.... 57.82... 0
Total............. 178.17... 168.51.. 0
PCS%TES....... 94.58%

Actually I didn't pay attention on this issue but if falls and deductions REALLY matter, the skater also matters. NMURA, if you need some more statistics then ask me, I'll post it for you.

blue_idealist
11-29-2010, 11:17 PM
I agree too. Its a pretty close fight for bronze between Joannie and Marai. I would have give it to Marai. If Marai has more successfully GPF series, she would have more brownie points from the judges. Her SP was totally underscore and deserved to be at least 68-70 range. Also there is the questionable tech call on one of her spin (i think its the layback spin) where she got level 4 and huge +GOE on SP, but was only marked Level 1 in the FS.
I think the Olympics podium was pretty much already picked out, just like in 2006. :sheep:

It's too bad Mirai wasn't there as even the US's champion. That might have worked in her favour if she'd won US Nats instead of Rachael.

Rock2
11-30-2010, 01:09 AM
Oh my. Y'all are terrible at this.

This one's easy-peasy.

YUKA SATO

*struggles with the toughest jumps and never mastered them although she did excute them sometimes in competition
*known as a skater's skater
*extremely clean edges
*strong lower body
*effortless speed and flow
*never skated clean
*always marked higher than her peers who had comparable technical content
*could express the music but was never known to be fully/emotionally invested such that she was known as a sensational artist
*decent spins but never the best in the business
*fast, intricate footwork

And if that isn't enough with a different haircut they'd look alike

Thank you. Thank you very much. :encore: