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Squibble
11-24-2010, 04:15 AM
If someone actually tried to put up a banner such as that described in the first post, what would happen? Would the organizers take it down? Would the people who put it up get thrown out of the arena or even (this being China) prosecuted?

It's one thing to act like an idiot in the (apparent) anonymity of an Internet, but quite another to do it in public, where there may be private security guards or police.

Bournekraatzfan
11-24-2010, 05:12 AM
I know, but her PCS scores have been mega inflated, in my opinion.

I agree, Allen.

Bournekraatzfan
11-24-2010, 05:21 AM
I guess we will never know but I was in the audience for that event as well and I always got the impression no result other than Bourne & Kraatz winning would have pleased people (which shows how out of touch with reality many were as everyone who seriously knows skating knew B&K were one of 3 teams battling for the bronze that year and would have been ecstatic with that). I didnt sense alot of excitement for the crowd towards Anissina & Peizerat either, so I doubt their winning would have enthused alot more, despite that their winning over the Italians would have actually been the correct result (well except for Sussie Wynne, LOL). The only team other than B&K in the final flight who seemed to be greatly received by the audience were Drobiazko & Vanagas who came only 5th (albeit another controversial placing).

You are so lucky to have been there! I wish I could have attended. I thought that B&K had the best OD but the FD should definitely have gone to A&P that year, IMO. F-P&M were exciting to watch, but she was doing all the work. I think that A&P's FD that year was not as popular with many of the fans as their Carmina Burana had been (that is still my favourite program of theirs, and I could watch it again and again:) It is interesting to hear from people who attended the event.

Bournekraatzfan
11-24-2010, 05:22 AM
While I think Patrick is overscored, I do not support putting anti- Chan banners; in fact, I vehemently oppose it. I even thought " Free Fernandez" banner was not funny at COR, but too agressive.
It is NOT a skater's fault that they currently are being elevated by the judging system. I do not want Patrick, or anybody, to face negative banners and feel persecuted. What they are doing is hard as it is!!!
If the Chinese want to continue the Russian banner " No magic mushroom, judge right", that's fine. But NO mention of patricular skaters! Or pass on your opinion to the Federations and judges privately, in letters, e-mails, whatever. No personal attacks on skaters, please.

well said.

luCN
11-24-2010, 05:24 AM
FrouFrou

please,no “a minority of ” and never will,many of them even didn't watch figure skating.

It's none bussiness with all those things you mentioned above.:Dyou know,they didn't care who is overscored...the only thing they concerned is the skater they loved didn't get what they wanted.

if Evan came,he may receive the same reaction...er,actually,they said something more:duh:...on SZ's blog before the AOI show and after they ask for next year AOI cast suggestion:lol:

they can't represent most chinese figure skating fans' feeling.

and please,please concerned on the topic,don't attack other innocent people.thank you.

dundas
11-24-2010, 05:29 AM
FrouFrou

please,no “a minority of ” and never will,many of them even didn't watch figure skating.

It's none bussiness with all those things you mentioned above.:Dyou know,they didn't care who is overscored...the only thing they concerned is the skater they loved didn't get what they wanted.

if Evan came,he may receive the same reaction...er,actually,they said something more:duh:...on SZ's blog before the AOI show and after they ask for next year AOI cast suggestion:lol:

they can't represent mostchinese figure skating fans' feeling.

and please,please concerned on the topic,don't attack innocent others.thank you.

So you can represent most chinese figure skating fans' feeling? :saint::saint:
:rolleyes:

You're better learn to represent yourself first!

luCN
11-24-2010, 05:35 AM
well said.

They didn't want to change the rules,they just want to change the result,if kozuka or Brandon win the GPF,they also won't be happy.they cursed Kozuka and Brandon right after the COC result published:watch:

you know,they don't care the rules change or not,they just want their favourites win all the time,if not,they attack everyone everything.so although I don't like Chan,I don't want to be represented by them,and come here to explain the trueth.:violin:

The Accordion
11-24-2010, 05:38 AM
I too was at that event, but my impression was different from yours. I sensed anger toward FP-M's win although they skated well, but only half of the team was doing difficult things. My impression was that they would have accepted A&P's win even though it meant B&K not winning. A&P were both better ice dancers. The fans would have been disappointed with their win, but not angry enough to walk out before the national anthem of the winners. I think the anger toward FP-M may have been enhanced by D&V's low placement too, but mainly it was directed toward the gold medallists whom the crowd did not see as worthy of a gold. Just my impression though, for what it's worth.

I was there as well and I had the same impression as you with pretty much everything you say here. Many of the people around me were most disgusted about D and V placement and the FP and M beating A and P than where B and K ended up. It seemed more like absolute overall confusion over the aforementioned rather than "the Canadians were robbed" to me.

luCN
11-24-2010, 05:41 AM
It's funny that all the attack on me is from ID just registered.Maybe FSU should pay me for promoting the site:lol:

if you think I'm wrong.You can point out which sentence I said is wrong.and then I will reply or if I'm wrong I will admit and apologize.

What you are doing now can't make any sense:D

Lily Cai
11-24-2010, 06:11 AM
ok,I've calmed down.

anyway,we can see crazy and stupid children in every countries,not that surprise.╮(╯_╰)╭

ok,let them show their incredible-low IQ.

but please understand——not all the Chinese figure skating fans are as stupid as those silly donkeys.:o:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I have the same feeling with you. I was very angry seeing this post.

I had a similar experience at Artistry on Ice. One girls who is a fan of Johnny (no offense to Johnny^^) even doesn't know Mao Asada. I believe those who want to do such stupid things are not really figure skating fans. They don't know very well about the sports, let alone the techical elements.

Such a shame! I'm worried if things go out and spread, the figure skating community will think that audience in china are mean and not well educated.

tangerine_dream
11-24-2010, 07:10 AM
It's not Patrick's fault the judges are corrupted. Why blame a skater for accepting his scores? When a skater is underscored, he has to accept his scores- and it's the same thing with overscoring. I don't know of any skater who would TURN DOWN an overscored medal- who cares? If the judges like him, he's doing something right. Everybody knows competition results honestly has very little to do with the actual performance and everything to do with whether a judge likes you or not. If Patrick played his cards right for the judges to like him (the same way the judges liked Evan Lysacek so much...) then that's how it is and he won the game.

Those "fans" should just get a life and perhaps their own hobby instead of obsessing about someone else's sport.

TID
11-24-2010, 07:53 AM
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FrouFrou
11-24-2010, 08:22 AM
FrouFrou

please,no “a minority of ” and never will,many of them even didn't watch figure skating.

It's none bussiness with all those things you mentioned above.:Dyou know,they didn't care who is overscored...the only thing they concerned is the skater they loved didn't get what they wanted.

if Evan came,he may receive the same reaction...er,actually,they said something more:duh:...on SZ's blog before the AOI show and after they ask for next year AOI cast suggestion:lol:

they can't represent most chinese figure skating fans' feeling.

and please,please concerned on the topic,don't attack other innocent people.thank you.

My eyes hurt. :cool: So I guess that's a no.


It's not Patrick's fault the judges are corrupted. Why blame a skater for accepting his scores? When a skater is underscored, he has to accept his scores- and it's the same thing with overscoring. I don't know of any skater who would TURN DOWN an overscored medal- who cares? If the judges like him, he's doing something right. Everybody knows competition results honestly has very little to do with the actual performance and everything to do with whether a judge likes you or not. If Patrick played his cards right for the judges to like him (the same way the judges liked Evan Lysacek so much...) then that's how it is and he won the game.

Those "fans" should just get a life and perhaps their own hobby instead of obsessing about someone else's sport.

:rofl:
Is this your brand of humor?! Or did you have an early Thanksgiving rum cake?!

luCN
11-24-2010, 09:11 AM
That topic has been deleted,so it's the end of the story.

at least,now we all know it's just individual thought which most of us don't support.

senorita
11-24-2010, 09:32 AM
Mushroom banners were funny and spot on, please multiply them like Smurfs. But negative banners for skaters , a big NO, no skater deserves this, arent we suppose to be fans of A sport? these people are athletes not puppets.