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HisWeirness
11-17-2010, 02:03 PM
So the previous thread was closed because it was 1000+ posts (thanks to all of the withdrawals) so I'm starting a new one to continue the assignments discussion.

If you want to discuss particular GP competition results please go to the K&C forums. ;)

The only change to the PDFs today is Jinlin Guan's assignment to TEB replacing Brezina:
http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=2301

There is still one Men's spot free at TEB.

HisWeirness
11-17-2010, 03:06 PM
:(

Looks like there is only going to be one Grand Prix for me this year. Oh well, I made the most of the one I had!
http://twitter.com/Armin_hammer/status/4891360284901376 (Armin Mahbanoozadeh)

MikiAndoFan#1
11-17-2010, 04:03 PM
:(

http://twitter.com/Armin_hammer/status/4891360284901376 (Armin Mahbanoozadeh)

:(

Oh, that's too bad.

:wall:

Eislauffan
11-17-2010, 06:36 PM
As for the invitation of Jinlin Guan, I think this was done before Armin Mahbanoozadeh finished 3rd at Skate America.

Jenna
11-17-2010, 09:41 PM
So sad! He was a joy to watch. I really think he is Priscilla's and the US' next best guy. I really hope he makes the world team this year.

sus2850
11-17-2010, 10:13 PM
I'd love to see Armin at TEB, why can't he come too?

HisWeirness
11-18-2010, 01:43 PM
As of today, Jinlin Guan's name is off of the TEB men's roster (he was on there yesterday)...

http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat00007099.htm

Still two open Men spots...

kirkbiggestfan
11-18-2010, 04:26 PM
Skate America is known to have a "soft" field to maximize the medalling chances of US skaters. France is just playing the exact same game. Can't blame them. Just change the rules. If you medal in a grand prix and only have 1 GP, you become the first alternate for the following GP.
I love watching Armin and feel bad for him but the selecting criteria needs to be reviewed completely.

If I were the French Fed, I would negotiate a deal..OK for Armin this year, but give us spots for our skaters next year. At skate america, we want: Silete and one of our 3 junior ice-dance teams that medalled in the JGP this year. I am somewhat kidding though.

Jayar
11-18-2010, 07:21 PM
Skate America is known to have a "soft" field to maximize the medalling chances of US skaters. France is just playing the exact same game. Can't blame them. Just change the rules. If you medal in a grand prix and only have 1 GP, you become the first alternate for the following GP.
I love watching Armin and feel bad for him but the selecting criteria needs to be reviewed completely.


Huh? In men's we had the current World Champ and Oda. In ladies, we had the current European Champ and Junior World Champ. In pairs, we had a two-time World Champ and the Junior World Champs. Dance is the only one that was a wash and that is only because Davis and White are so far ahead of anyone ranked 4-6. How is SA a soft field?

NMURA
11-18-2010, 07:48 PM
The ladies field of SA was indeed weak.

Lepisto ... weakest of the top 3
Kostner ... always bombs in NA
Flatt ... national champion
Helgesson ...

SA had to take someone from Japan. Murakami was a better deal compared to Asada, Suzuki and Ando. Skate Canada must have the same strategy. They are luckier to pick Imai and Suguri. Obvious threats like Kim, Ando and Suzuki were pushed to China and Russia. They were not interested in "watering down" the field as NA. I guess Kim didn't submit her request to the ISU (because she intended to skip GP from the beginning).

As for men, I guess Takahashi requested an assignment to SA and the US had no reason to refuse. Oda was not considered as a big threat after the disgrace at Torino worlds. Rippon was planned to make the Final with two silvers.

Sylvia
11-18-2010, 07:55 PM
I guess Kim didn't submit her request to the ISU (because she intended to skip GP from the beginning).
Yu-Na Kim was assigned to China and Russia back in June -- all the original GP selections can be viewed online, just click on the "entries" links in the first post of the original GP assignments thread: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2787906&postcount=1

barbk
11-18-2010, 09:53 PM
The ladies field of SA was indeed weak.

Lepisto ... weakest of the top 3
Kostner ... always bombs in NA
Flatt ... national champion
Helgesson ...

SA had to take someone from Japan. Murakami was a better deal compared to Asada, Suzuki and Ando. Skate Canada must have the same strategy. They are luckier to pick Imai and Suguri. Obvious threats like Kim, Ando and Suzuki were pushed to China and Russia. They were not interested in "watering down" the field as NA. I guess Kim didn't submit her request to the ISU (because she intended to skip GP from the beginning).

As for men, I guess Takahashi requested an assignment to SA and the US had no reason to refuse. Oda was not considered as a big threat after the disgrace at Torino worlds. Rippon was planned to make the Final with two silvers.

I really don't think so. The US has typically had a very competitive Skate America field, and this year wasn't much different. Any anyone who thinks that Oda isn't much of a threat to medal on the GP circuit must be smoking something -- he has the potential to earn a much higher point total than Rippon could reasonably expect, and ditto for Takahashi. The US has not shied away from competitive fields, and has in past years been criticized for having skaters like Kwan and Cohen both chosen for Skate America when they were likely to earn more points towards the final by splitting them up.

sk9tingfan
11-18-2010, 10:06 PM
As for men, I guess Takahashi requested an assignment to SA and the US had no reason to refuse. Oda was not considered as a big threat after the disgrace at Torino worlds. Rippon was planned to make the Final with two silvers.

Where would you get this from? I'm far from a big Oda fan, but I can give credit where credit is due. Have you taken into account that Oda was under other stressors during the Olympics and Worlds, i.e., that his girlfriend was pregnant and he had one of the most stress-inducing coaches in the world?:confused:

NMURA
11-18-2010, 10:26 PM
Where would you get this from? I'm far from a big Oda fan, but I can give credit where credit is due. Have you taken into account that Oda was under other stressors during the Olympics and Worlds, i.e., that his girlfriend was pregnant and he had one of the most stress-inducing coaches in the world?:confused:

If I were a USFS official, I would expect Oda's negative reputation to affect the scoring (in favorable ways for Rippon). Takahashi could be even less consistent. Remember his performances of last year's GPS and GPF. Rippon's chance to win SA was not that small. They needed someone like Oda (Verner, in the case of last year) to make an excuse that they are not watering down the field too much.

euterpe
11-19-2010, 03:11 AM
Takahashi was returning from a serious injury during last year's GP, so yes, his performances were inconsistent. But he is an Olympic medalwinner and he is the reigning World Champion. So he obviously had completely recovered from his injury and performed at a high level in the second half of the 2009-2010 season.