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deltask8er
12-03-2010, 03:57 AM
Qatar's proposed stadiums do look rather :inavoid: , I must say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcAi3GLQyOI

Maybe it will be the one way to lure Osama bin Laden out of hiding. He'll do anything to attend opening ceremonies :lol: .

Domshabfan
12-03-2010, 04:13 AM
Qatar's proposed stadiums do look rather :inavoid: , I must say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcAi3GLQyOI

Maybe it will be the one way to lure Osama bin Laden out of hiding. He'll do anything to attend opening ceremonies :lol: .

Sorry what is the connection between laden and Qatar, I thought he was Saudi Arabia.

And i agree with the assessment on stadiums, On the competition front they did host 2006 Asian games but that was is december i believe.

Orable
12-03-2010, 05:46 AM
Sorry what is the connection between laden and Qatar, I thought he was Saudi Arabia.
There's no connection between bin Laden and Qatar; deltaskater probably was trying to make a joke.

Currently, foreigners are allowed to drink alcohol in hotels and resorts in Qatar. My friend who grew up there said that even Qataris and other Muslims can in fact buy and do drink alcohol in Qatar, but they cannot be in Qatari clothing (white robes for men; black abayas and other forms of hijab for women) while doing so. All a foreigner would have to do is show his/her passport and they can buy/drink alcohol. The organizers have already said that during the WC there will be designated drinking places (oases you might call them ;)) for those who want to :40beers:

While the weather is ridiculously hot there, they have outdoor air conditioners, which apparently work (never seen 'em).

As for the Israeli team, Qatari officials have already said that if Israel qualifies, the team and their fans would be welcome.

Really you guys. FIFA would not have awarded the games to Qatar if they thought Israeli players' lives would be endangered, and the heat could damage the athletes and if the audience would not have a good time. And I'm betting Qatar worked so hard on their bid to try to change peoples' perceptions of Arabs and Muslims. And while I think Qatar's money could be better spent elsewhere* (billions of dollars on building stadiums? Lordamercy), it's probably not a bad idea for the world to get a glimpse of an Arab society...and hopefully folks will realize that Arabs are pretty normal and decent and like to have a good time - just like every one else.

:soapbox:

pumba
12-03-2010, 06:08 AM
I am not happy at all the World Cup will be held in my city. They plan to build a stadium on an island. It is just across the Volga river in the downtown. The ecological situation will get 100 times worse. They'll ruin the island, the river will become even more durty..
Well, maybe in Western countries they do build big stadiums, or trade centers without touching nature, but here:slinkaway I'm afraid - the main idea will be to build and to show all sort of luxury (ala Beijing Olympics) no matter what.
The unique Sochi nature is in danger + they will build the F1 track there; so the same will be with Samara.
I prefer to have a park or a river near my city, not a stadium. IMO this will make the nation much healthier than any of the bombastic projects.
It's obvious that such events as Olys and FIFA Cups are more like a business not sport events.
Why they hell they don't ask us - people who live in Sochi, Samara, Kaliningrad - do we need all this? :huh: Looks like we should be super-grateful, but I personally am not:blah:.

NeilJLeonard
12-03-2010, 12:38 PM
I am not happy at all the World Cup will be held in my city. They plan to build a stadium on an island. It is just across the Volga river in the downtown. The ecological situation will get 100 times worse. They'll ruin the island, the river will become even more durty..
Well, maybe in Western countries they do build big stadiums, or trade centers without touching nature, but here:slinkaway I'm afraid - the main idea will be to build and to show all sort of luxury (ala Beijing Olympics) no matter what.
The unique Sochi nature is in danger + they will build the F1 track there; so the same will be with Samara.
I prefer to have a park or a river near my city, not a stadium. IMO this will make the nation much healthier than any of the bombastic projects.
It's obvious that such events as Olys and FIFA Cups are more like a business not sport events.
Why they hell they don't ask us - people who live in Sochi, Samara, Kaliningrad - do we need all this? :huh: Looks like we should be super-grateful, but I personally am not:blah:.

OMG! A Russian 'republican'!...:lol:

NJL

pumba
12-03-2010, 12:50 PM
Well, probably, though I don't care about politics.
The 2 things that bother me
1. the way it will hurt nature (and it definitely will)
2. why not ask people before bidding for such a huge project? well, this is a rhetorical question:rolleyes:. batman and robin play their big boys' games:rollin:

Buzz
12-03-2010, 01:41 PM
Undercover Jim went shopping in Doha, Qatar with some surprising results...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VluY5SWfjSI

beepbeep
12-03-2010, 01:59 PM
Thought Russia was great call for 2018.
From the BRIC countries, only India will not have a huge sporting event coming up soon... Yet (hello 2024/2026 :P).


I am not happy at all the World Cup will be held in my city.

Dear, you are exactly where I was when they announced that Brazil got the 2014 WC and that my city would be one of the host cities.

I'd like to have some comfort to offer, but four years later, I'm still pretty much p*ssed off with it, as it will turn our already chaotic city even more chaotic. And the construction/remodeling aiming 2014 has just begun (why build things right away when you can procrastinate?) and I doubt it will finish on time. (and, of course, constrcuction is the least of our problems...) :violin:

Although I'm pretty sure that Russia will do better.

let`s talk
12-03-2010, 02:11 PM
I am not happy at all the World Cup will be held in my city. They plan to build a stadium on an island. It is just across the Volga river in the downtown. The ecological situation will get 100 times worse. They'll ruin the island, the river will become even more durty..
Well, maybe in Western countries they do build big stadiums, or trade centers without touching nature, but here:slinkaway I'm afraid - the main idea will be to build and to show all sort of luxury (ala Beijing Olympics) no matter what.
The unique Sochi nature is in danger + they will build the F1 track there; so the same will be with Samara.
I prefer to have a park or a river near my city, not a stadium. IMO this will make the nation much healthier than any of the bombastic projects.
It's obvious that such events as Olys and FIFA Cups are more like a business not sport events.
Why they hell they don't ask us - people who live in Sochi, Samara, Kaliningrad - do we need all this? :huh: Looks like we should be super-grateful, but I personally am not:blah:.
You have no idea how many similar whinings were in St-Petersburg press when then-governor was building the huge, luxury and super modern New Arena (for ice-hockey Worlds), like: "we have more important needs", " social system needs that money," "we can't afford it" and of course blah-blah about nature and landscape. Luckily the construction was far from the hystorical part of the city, so whining ones couldn't play that card. Soon after the New Arena became the most frequent venue for all possible shows, pop-concerts, sport competitions, including FS Gran-Prix. I was seriously pissed when Moscow got the FS Worlds in its old fashioned rinks with dump facilities.

Don't worry. Your city will benefit a lot from the World Cup.

Congrats to Russia. A little worried about transportation since the locations are pretty far from each other. Never mind. Some matches I can skip.

Buzz
12-03-2010, 02:28 PM
here is a funny football moment thanks to the Qatari football team...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQLylizGmDs&feature=player_embedded


Yesterday's Europa League results and Palermo is out.

Dortmund 3 - 0 Karpaty
PSG 4 - 2 Sevilla
Utrecht 3 - 3 Napoli
Rapid Wien 1 - 3 Porto
Steaua 1 - 1 Liverpool
CSKA Sofia 1 - 2 Beşiktaş
CSKA Moskva 5 - 1 Lausanne
Villarreal 3 - 0 Dinamo Zagreb
Palermo 2 - 2 Sparta Praha
Sheriff 1 - 1 AZ
PAOK 1 - 1 Club Brugge
BATE 1 - 4 Dynamo Kyiv

Buzz
12-03-2010, 03:42 PM
There are now calls for the reform of FIFA and for much more transparency which I support. Here is an article supporting that view from Bleacherreport.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/533180-corruption-in-fifa-part-1-vote-rigging

Jackie Sparrow
12-04-2010, 10:04 PM
FIFA suck, Blatter sucks, greedy old pricks!
Qatar is a joke!

Domshabfan
12-05-2010, 02:52 AM
FIFA suck, Blatter sucks, greedy old pricks!
Qatar is a joke!


As bad as FIFA are, I don't think it was time for world cup to go USA, they already had it in 1994 and clearly was very soon. Japan/Korea were the really greedy once, couldn't believe they actually bid for it in the first place. The Qatar had strong backing for the bid from other middle eastern countries as well, the region never had a world cup. As Franz Beckenbauer has suggested FIFA might move the world cup to earlier in the year.

But I simple can't understand the arrogance of some countries, that suggest it is their birthright to hold the world cup and rest of the world does not exist.

Buzz
12-05-2010, 05:23 AM
As Franz Beckenbauer has suggested FIFA might move the world cup to earlier in the year.

I still do not like the idea of the WC going to Qatar but moving the tournament to earlier in the year would solve some problems. But may just create new ones because some domestic leagues may clash with an earlier start date. However we do have 12 years to sort this stuff out. :D

kylet3
12-05-2010, 02:40 PM
India just had the Commonwealth Games which held over 7,500 athletes and officials from around the world, but given how much of a disaster the lead up was, the problems that were held during the games and athletes coming back here (one local athlete came back with Dengue fever :wall:) and not to mention all the corruption and scandals before and after the game, I shudder to think that they host the Olympic Games anytime soon :scream: