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Garden Kitty
06-10-2011, 12:57 AM
Mexico hit with clenbuterol positives for 5 players. (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2011/06/ochoa-and-five-other-players-removed-from-mexico-gold-cup-team-after-positive-drug-tests.html)

Orable
06-10-2011, 04:37 PM
I can't believe it - why would someone like Ochoa ruin his career just for drugs? Or was he never really that talented & promising, and all this time we were hoodwinked by his drug use? Grrrrrrr :mad:

KHenry14
06-12-2011, 03:05 AM
Well....sometimes you hate to be right, but the USA's 2-1 loss to Panama was easily predicted, right NJL??? ;)

NeilJLeonard
06-12-2011, 01:11 PM
Well....sometimes you hate to be right, but the USA's 2-1 loss to Panama was easily predicted, right NJL??? ;)
Sadly, yes. Overall an unacceptable result anyway you look at it. Panama was/is under-rated and the USA is most emphatically over rated. I felt that at least one of the 3 teams in this group was going to bite our butt. I thought it might be Canada because of the revenge factor from 2007. Instead it was Panama, a team that has played us very well in the past. Now the USA plays a team that could give us another shock. Bob B had better have 'em ready for this one or we'll suffer a huge humiliation. And he could/should be job hunting soon after....:(

NeilJLeonard
06-15-2011, 04:23 AM
Canada ties 1-1 against Panama and Panama wins group. Canada held 1-0 lead until 90+ when Panama tied match to get 1 point to clinch group lead. Canada needed USA loss to advance.

USA finishes 2nd with 1-0 win over Guadeloupe. USA scored in 9th minute on a 25 yard bullet by Jozy Altidore. They dominated game until the end, but some desperate defending by Guadeloupe coupled with a few more misses by the USA kept the game close until the end.

Panama & USA advance to quarters. Canada & Guadeloupe eliminated.

USA to play a very much in form group winner Jamaica next.

KHenry14
06-15-2011, 07:48 AM
What a joke today's game was. The worst finishing that I've ever seen, and it wasn't just Dempsey's collosal failures, Donovan, Wondo also chipped in with shots from 6 yards out that went over the bar...

The USA should have won 6-0 against a weak side like Guadeloupe. Yet instead, we got a flurry of blown opportunities, plus some weak passing in the midfiled. Only Jones, Lichaj, and Cherundolo had decent games.

Even with that said, Jozy's goal was a thing of beauty! ;)

NeilJLeonard
06-15-2011, 01:54 PM
What a joke today's game was. The worst finishing that I've ever seen, and it wasn't just Dempsey's collosal failures, Donovan, Wondo also chipped in with shots from 6 yards out that went over the bar...

The USA should have won 6-0 against a weak side like Guadeloupe. Yet instead, we got a flurry of blown opportunities, plus some weak passing in the midfiled. Only Jones, Lichaj, and Cherundolo had decent games.

Even with that said, Jozy's goal was a thing of beauty! ;)
A stunning goal if you consider how out of form he's been and how difficult goals have come for him over the last year.

BTW, don't discount the Guadeloupe keeper's efforts. He stopped several sure goals from Dempsey, Wondo, et al, but you are correct, the score still should have been at least 4-0.

The changes in the back 4 should have been the starting 4 for the 1st 2 games, IMO. They looked much more solid, plus the 2 outside backs were very involved in the attack. It's quite possible we'd be in 1st place w/9 points if they had been our starting back line. I hope they continue as the starting 4, too. Jamaica has a 7-0 scoring composite over 3 games. The USA's is 4-2.... (Mexico's is 14-1 & Mr Javier Hernandez leads the tournament w/5 goals, 1 more than the USA's team total ....no wonder Man U loves him...;)...).

NJL (...This thread is beginning to read like a USA thread on BigSoccer ...:D...)

KHenry14
06-15-2011, 07:42 PM
NJL (...This thread is beginning to read like a USA thread on BigSoccer ...:D...)

This is way less crazy than those guys at Big Soccer!

Buzz
06-16-2011, 01:27 PM
Well it is the off season for most pro leagues so....

NeilJLeonard
06-16-2011, 01:37 PM
This is way less crazy than those guys at Big Soccer!
True. The venom & insane hatred are lacking....:lol:

Interesting comment on ESPN last light about Bob B being replaced if the USA did not beat Guadeloupe. They claimed that the 1-0 win saved his job. It was also said that this is the same deal for Bradley when they play Jamaica in the quarters. Win or adios. We'll see what happens @ 3PM on Fox Soccer & Telefutura in the US.

NJL (...please stand by for future updates..;)...)

NeilJLeonard
06-20-2011, 01:11 PM
USA 2 v 0 Jamaica.....:wideeyes:

USA played it's best game of the Cup by far. The 2 goals scored are the 1st 2 goals against Jamaica in the Gold up. A different line up, w/o Landon Donovan starting, and a different formation (4-2-3-1) seemed to confuse the Jamaicans for most of the match. Also, a rather interesting red card against them in the 2nd half didn't help their cause much either.

Semi-finals are on Wednesday in Houston with the USA v Panama & Mexico v Honduras. Who knows? Maybe we'll see that USA v Mexico final after all. Or not, if the USA plays Panama the same way they did in the 2 teams 1st meeting in the Gold Cup.

NJL (...we'll see.....please stand by for more on Thursday AM....:cool:...)

KHenry14
06-21-2011, 12:15 AM
Certainly a better all around performance by the USA. We finally saw the promise of Jermaine Jones come to fruition in an excellent performance by him. Michael Bradley has found a partner for the next cycle to be sure.

I also liked the play of Alejandro Bedoya, who was lucky to be in the mix since he wasn't even selected by Bob to make the squad, but when Feilheiber went down, Bedoya got the spot and has taken advantage of it.

Sacha Kljestan was once again a problem in our midfield, why he keeps getting called up to the squad is a mystery to me. He had numerous opportunities to make the final pass to an open striker and missed every time. We have too many decent midfielders on the roster to give him these opportunities. I daresay that Freddy Adu would have been better than Sacha was.

One last thing, I'm glad the USA got to see how good Donovan Ricketts is. We Galaxy fans already knew that he's an excellent Keeper, now Concacaf knows too!:D

Buzz
06-21-2011, 01:45 AM
Congrats to the USA and I actually did see part of that match. It would have been nice to see Jamaica advance but congratulations to the USA on a well deserved win.

NeilJLeonard
06-21-2011, 07:57 PM
Certainly a better all around performance by the USA. We finally saw the promise of Jermaine Jones come to fruition in an excellent performance by him. Michael Bradley has found a partner for the next cycle to be sure.

I also liked the play of Alejandro Bedoya, who was lucky to be in the mix since he wasn't even selected by Bob to make the squad, but when Feilheiber went down, Bedoya got the spot and has taken advantage of it.

Sacha Kljestan was once again a problem in our midfield, why he keeps getting called up to the squad is a mystery to me. He had numerous opportunities to make the final pass to an open striker and missed every time. We have too many decent midfielders on the roster to give him these opportunities. I daresay that Freddy Adu would have been better than Sacha was.

One last thing, I'm glad the USA got to see how good Donovan Ricketts is. We Galaxy fans already knew that he's an excellent Keeper, now Concacaf knows too!:D
Adu is not the answer. BB has other options he could have used. I expect much the same line-up for Panama, but w/Donovan starting. Drop Kljestan & keep Bedoya and, IMO, we have have a winning 11 on the field.

NJL (..we'll see... to go to another sport and a different time, "just win, baby!"...;)...)

Buzz
06-21-2011, 10:12 PM
Meanwhile the UEFA U-21 is also going on and Spain will play Belarus while Czech Republic will play Switzerland today. Can't believe Belarus is in the Semi-finals but good luck to them. For such a small country win would mean a lot.