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mysticchic
11-10-2010, 10:11 PM
My Dad wants to buy a new computer. He thinks someone has taken over his. So I've heard a few good things about WebTV. Can someone fill me in about equipment, cost and how it works?

C_T_T_
11-10-2010, 10:30 PM
You download the software from http://www.rutelevision.com/index-en.asp and then you can buy a pincode for either 1 month or 3 months et Viola! Oh and you get a free 3days trial.

The minimum requirements are:
Windows 98SE or later (MAC or Linux are not supported)
Pentium III 750 MHz
Memory: 126 MBytes
Internet speed: 1000 kbps

Kasey
11-10-2010, 10:34 PM
Actually, there is an actual computer system called WebTV (before the Russian television one came out). I guess it's now called MSN TV.

http://www.about-the-web.com/shtml/WebTV.shtml

HisWeirness
11-10-2010, 10:39 PM
There is more Russian WebTV info in the thread below (from TV alerts):

http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=75520

mysticchic
11-10-2010, 10:47 PM
Now he wants to buy the equipment. Does it have windows? Does it work like a real computer? Can it conect to his interent service he has or is that another thing he would have to buy? Can he use it on more then one tv?

FigureSpins
11-11-2010, 01:01 AM
FSWer uses MSN/WebTV and has all sorts of problems signing in, staying signed in, etc. It locks him out regularly from various forums, but he thinks it's bugs in the forum software. He has an older version without a mouse or trackball - stay away from that entirely. Signing in is tricky because he has to use "tab+spacebar" to reposition the cursor to "push" buttons and icons.

I had a neighbor who used Web TV for a time and she really didn't like it. Even though she's pretty computer-phobic, she ended up buying a desktop computer to replace it as soon as the contract was over. It had a lot of difficulties with Java and documents; the printer never worked right, either. Basically, the service used her TV as a monitor.

The brochure is here: http://www.msntv.com/pc/get/docs/Broadband_Setup_Guide.pdf The service is an extra fee each month from your provider.

Maybe your father would like an Apple computer -they're more user-friendly. Since they're not used in most corporations, virus makers pretty much ignore them. There are some viruses on Macs, contrary to what advocates will tell you, but they're few and far between.

CompUSA and Staples offer a free PC checkup or a $40-50 virus removal service; your father should have them see if there really is something wrong with his computer. Easier than replacing the computer and having to get used to new equipment/system.

deltask8er
11-11-2010, 01:24 AM
Now he wants to buy the equipment. Does it have windows? Does it work like a real computer? Can it conect to his interent service he has or is that another thing he would have to buy? Can he use it on more then one tv?

He can have my MSN TV machine that I used from 2004 - 2007. I was about to recycle it it, anyway. In 2007 I finally bought an actual computer for my home. But WebTV/MSNTV served me well from the late 90's to 2007.

It has an ethernet connection, and you can also access your e-mail on a real computer via msn.com.

What I do NOT miss about it (though it might have improved a bit since then): I could only look at one window at a time, and I couldn't figure out how to copy and paste; if I visited a really complicated web site, MSN TV would just get overwhelmed and shut down; and I paid $9.95 per month in addition to my high-speed internet monthly payment.

I don't think he could use it on more than one TV, but it is fairly light and portable. I also liked how easy it was to save and compartmentalize photos.

I don't know of anyone who still uses it. Might be more convenient to use a netbook. And now there are fancy TVs designed with Internet access as well. http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/unisen.html ; http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644751998&Name=Sony+Internet+TV/Feature_DualView&SR=hero:sitv_google_tv:ss:Targeted&ttcoid=SONY_HP_Lifestyle_LS_Google_TV_Televisions_ New&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sony.com%2Findex.php . No idea how much they cost, though.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSN_TV

mysticchic
11-11-2010, 02:15 AM
I thought about a Mac but he is on a fixed income. I've run viris removal programs for him. Problem is he keeps opening these forward things. I told him not to open them. And my brother sends stuff like this all the time. He wants something new. He thinks someone has hacked into his computer and plays with him every day (they start programs on his computer, and last week he found the mic was turned on and he thinks they are listening to him). I know he needs a doctor for that. He is 77.
He likes laptops. He has one from 2000 that my sister and I have updated for him. But it's as slow as a snail. I was thinking WebTV but from what you guys have said it might not be the answer. Any thoughts on a cheap good laptop?

deltask8er
11-11-2010, 03:17 AM
One advantage to MSN TV for him, then, is it is not capable of opening e-mail attachments, like zip files and pdf's. Tough to get a virus if you can't open it to begin with.

I remember seeing a commercial a few years ago for gadget that is only for e-mail.

In the meantime, here is a possibility.


Not one to shy away from obstacles, Mr. Hughes got together with his business partner, Ali Syed, to design an e-mail system that no senior could resist: no logins or links, no ad boxes or news flashes, no pokes or Twitters only personal e-mail messages and photographs, with a caregiver making sure that everything is running smoothly.

They named it PawPawMail and created a Web site, pawpawmail.com. Anyone can use the software for $5 a month and run it on virtually any P.C. or Mac, including old clunkers gathering dust in the back of closets.

http://newoldage.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/easier-e-mail-for-the-older-generation/

Or Presto

http://www.presto.com/printer-for-email-and-photos.aspx

mysticchic
11-11-2010, 03:45 AM
Delta great idea, but he does like to surf and read things. He also likes Mafia Wars, Farmville, Yoville and poker. He just told me he wants the computer in rooms my Mom doesn't go in. No not porn. I checked. Other then what my bro sends out. He likes to watch movies and old TV shows (which is why I thought webtv might be good). He is afraid of TVants, Hulu, and P2p. I think he was banned from posting on AOL politic threads, because he was calling them names and changed to Yahoo. He is a hunt and peck typer. He needs large print. He even learned to text on his phone. Same with my Mom.
After I get my Dad set up I want to get my mom using a computer. She would like to watch home decorating shows, email and dog stuff. She can type. My Dad has gotten her so worried she will break the computer. I might just get her a netbook or fix his tower so she can use it.

C_T_T_
11-11-2010, 11:22 AM
Actually, there is an actual computer system called WebTV (before the Russian television one came out). I guess it's now called MSN TV.

http://www.about-the-web.com/shtml/WebTV.shtml

Oh :o Sorry!

mysticchic
11-12-2010, 07:37 AM
He went out and bought an Acer today and is now returning it tomorrow. And to make matters worse, my brother is going to help him. My brother calls Google, googlie (no he really thinks that's what it is called). He has no idea how to copy and paste. He thinks he will be able to do something to my Dad's computer.