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judgejudy27
11-21-2010, 04:32 PM
I do think Abbott's reputation is not at a high point from the judges now either. They are tired of waiting for him to come around, they expected big things from him at 4CCs and Worlds in 2009, and GP final and Olympics in 2010, and he let them down each time. Now they are just bored with him and dont consider him a big star in waiting or a heir to the throne of any kind anymore. Then again Verner's is not either and we see what happened and the judges were definitely willing to place Abbott ahead of Verner if he skated well. Abbott has to go in thinking, like Verner at the moment, that he has to skate perfectly at the moment to get recognition. Nothing less will do, until he establishes himself again in their eyes.

pinky166
11-21-2010, 05:19 PM
I do think Abbott's reputation is not at a high point from the judges now either. They are tired of waiting for him to come around, they expected big things from him at 4CCs and Worlds in 2009, and GP final and Olympics in 2010, and he let them down each time. Now they are just bored with him and dont consider him a big star in waiting or a heir to the throne of any kind anymore. Then again Verner's is not either and we see what happened and the judges were definitely willing to place Abbott ahead of Verner if he skated well. Abbott has to go in thinking, like Verner at the moment, that he has to skate perfectly at the moment to get recognition. Nothing less will do, until he establishes himself again in their eyes.

I agree and think the same thing is happening to Joubert, who skated fairly clean at CoC and only came in 4th. His PCS in the LP were quite low for him (72) and his score was only 135 overall, yes it wasn't that great technically and the program isn't his best but I thought he deserved in the mid 140s for that performance.

I think all 3 men are at a little bit of a disadvantage right now because of what happened last season and have to show some solid, consistent skates in order to get their reputations and scores back up to where they should be. I thought Verner's score in the FS here was fair and a very good score, but its more in the SP that the judges seem to be holding him down, especially because I think his SP is fantastic! I think that is the reasoning behind him trying to peak at Europeans this season, in Europe Verner still has a pretty good reputation and if he skates well he will get big scores, and that way if he goes into Worlds as a European medalist or Champion it will get him some recognition and a good reputation and hopefully good scores if he can skate well there. Joubert probably has a similar mindset. The odds are looking good for both of them this season where the European field seems pretty open and they have PCS advantage over most of the other men there.

LilJen
11-21-2010, 05:37 PM
My favorite performance from Tomas,

Always look at the bright side of life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-O8jSN5J1Y)

A hobo with sequins :lol:


Risky Business music clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2UVs...eature=related
That Old Time Rock & Roll - Bob Seger
No! He might think he's supposed to skate in tube socks and boxers! :yikes:

museksk8r
11-21-2010, 05:48 PM
How much longer then are the judges going to accept Patrick Chan being a human zamboni? It seems it doesn't matter when he's bum-planted to the ice, but everyone else has to pay for their mistakes forever. Chan let the judges down at 2009 Skate Canada (granted, he was injured), the 2010 Olympics, the 2010 Worlds LP (that's the messiest silver medal mens' finish I ever recall seeing at senior Worlds for the men), 2010 Skate Canada SP, and 2010 COR LP. Chan's mistakes don't seem to matter though; his PCS are still astronomical and are always there to save the day for him. He has shattered the record for most falls in history for a mens' winning ISU event in figure skating with 4 falls at 2010 Skate Canada and very nearly repeated in Russia expect for a rule technicality. PCS punishment for poor performances bypasses the great Chan I suppose. :rolleyes::shuffle:

ninadel
11-21-2010, 06:46 PM
Tomas skating to West Side Story would be :swoon:, he'd make such a cute Jet :).


Yeah, West Side Story has great music, but it's a bit over-used.

Yes, WSS music is overused but most of the time its a woman skating to some combination of Maria/Somewhere/Tonight (e.g. Akiko Suzuki last year). Music from the opening and the gym dance aren't used as often:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8R9GiLImSw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II2uaRmlQNg

The Mambo sequence is my absolute fave but to use it in a program you'd have to edit out them yelling "Mambo!"

judgejudy27
11-22-2010, 01:31 AM
I agree and think the same thing is happening to Joubert, who skated fairly clean at CoC and only came in 4th. His PCS in the LP were quite low for him (72) and his score was only 135 overall, yes it wasn't that great technically and the program isn't his best but I thought he deserved in the mid 140s for that performance.

I think all 3 men are at a little bit of a disadvantage right now because of what happened last season and have to show some solid, consistent skates in order to get their reputations and scores back up to where they should be. I thought Verner's score in the FS here was fair and a very good score, but its more in the SP that the judges seem to be holding him down, especially because I think his SP is fantastic! I think that is the reasoning behind him trying to peak at Europeans this season, in Europe Verner still has a pretty good reputation and if he skates well he will get big scores, and that way if he goes into Worlds as a European medalist or Champion it will get him some recognition and a good reputation and hopefully good scores if he can skate well there. Joubert probably has a similar mindset. The odds are looking good for both of them this season where the European field seems pretty open and they have PCS advantage over most of the other men there.

I think in Joubert's case they might be giving him the hint it is time to move on. He has been on the scene and near the top awhile and the World has already seen his best amateur skating probably. So irregardless if his skills still merit being at the top amongst the current field that exists if he skates well, I think we might see that continue for him. Later in the year will give us a better idea though. The judges have been giving Fumie Suguri the hint to retire for half a decade now and she still wont.

pinky166
11-22-2010, 04:13 AM
I think in Joubert's case they might be giving him the hint it is time to move on. He has been on the scene and near the top awhile and the World has already seen his best amateur skating probably. So irregardless if his skills still merit being at the top amongst the current field that exists if he skates well, I think we might see that continue for him. Later in the year will give us a better idea though. The judges have been giving Fumie Suguri the hint to retire for half a decade now and she still wont.

:lol:. I was under the impression that Brian was only trying to stay in until 2012 Worlds in Nice, but maybe after his disasterous Olympics he might think of staying until Sochi? Idk, I really like the guy and wouldn't mind if he sticks around a while longer. I mean, when was the last time he was off the European and Worlds podium? It seems like he's always been on them for forever.

ninadel
12-03-2010, 08:16 AM
Look who did a wonderful interview piece on Tomas! :cheer2:

http://www.absoluteskating.com/interviews/2010nov-tomasverner.html

Great questions, deedeelocks! Lots of interesting quotes here...

let`s talk
12-03-2010, 09:25 AM
How much longer then are the judges going to accept Patrick Chan being a human zamboni?

Looooooooooooooooooooooonger.....:D:D:D:D:D

igniculus
12-04-2010, 02:13 PM
Post FS interview @ CoR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4jg-smAaws)

It's hard not to like this guy. :lol:

:swoon: He is the cutest.

alilou
12-07-2010, 05:56 AM
Verner's secret: Something borrowed, something blue
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/pjkwong/2010/12/verners-secret-something-borrowed-something-blue.html

It's the story of his costume changes this season. We should finally see the real one at the GPF

siberia82
12-07-2010, 07:02 AM
Ha ha, I had no idea that he borrowed Paul Poirier's shirt! :lol: And what does he mean by "street meat"? Hot dogs?

pinky166
12-07-2010, 03:58 PM
Ha ha, I had no idea that he borrowed Paul Poirier's shirt! :lol: And what does he mean by "street meat"? Hot dogs?

Kebab maybe?

deedeelocks
12-07-2010, 07:41 PM
nah, hotdogs. It's written here:
http://www.yorkregion.com/sports/local/article/912074--olympic-skater-in-richmond-hill


FAVE FOOD — hot dogs, especially the ones that you get on the street downtown.