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MR-FAN
10-27-2010, 03:54 AM
Hey everyone,

For those familiar with the new rules for this season, how would the following be scored/judged if someone attempts it:

3toe-2loop-1/2 loop-2sal?

would it count for no points?

Thanks!

Marco
10-27-2010, 04:00 AM
No points because it will be called as a 4 jump combo and the max jump combo allowed is 3.

MR-FAN
10-27-2010, 04:02 AM
That's what I thought, thanks!

Sedge
10-27-2010, 04:03 AM
I think that would be considered a 4 jump combination and the max allowed is a 3 jump combination.

New Rule
Jump Combinations and Jump Sequences A jump combination may consist of the same or another single, double, triple or quadruple jump. There may be up to three jump combinations or jump sequences in the Free Program. One jump combination could consist of up to three (3) jumps, the other two up to two (2) jumps.

I think it would receive zero

This season Joannie's 3T...1/2Loop...3S is considered a 3 jump combination

Aussie Willy
10-27-2010, 05:42 AM
I would have thought that the first 2 jumps would be counted but the last one would have been left off and the 1/2 loop only counts if it connects another jump.

Vash01
10-27-2010, 09:29 PM
No points because it will be called as a 4 jump combo and the max jump combo allowed is 3.

That sounds harsh (but may be true). You can't go from the landing of the second jump to 3sal without the half loop. So may be skaters just have to do 3t-0.5loop-3salchow?

luenatic
10-27-2010, 10:02 PM
That sounds harsh (but may be true).

It is true. 3 is the max for jump combination in FS. 2 is the max for SP.

If a single skater did 3 jump combo in SP, he/she would receive no mark for the illegal element.

Aussie Willy
10-27-2010, 11:15 PM
It is true. 3 is the max for jump combination in FS. 2 is the max for SP.

If a single skater did 3 jump combo in SP, he/she would receive no mark for the illegal element.

The judges would probably have to give it -3 because it doesn't fulfill the requirements. But the technical panel could probably call the first two jumps.

However any skater who put a 3 jump combo in an SP is an idiot because they should know that rule by the time they start doing an SP.

luenatic
10-28-2010, 12:33 AM
But the technical panel could probably call the first two jumps.

They could not. It's an illegal element for FS.

Ziggy
10-28-2010, 02:36 AM
Jump combination can consist of up to 3 jumps.

Jump sequence can consist of 2 jumps.

Marco
10-28-2010, 05:36 AM
Jump sequence can consist of 2 jumps.

I thoguht Shawn Sawyer got credited with a 3flip half loop 3loop sequence at NHK?

victoriaheidi
10-28-2010, 05:47 AM
The difference between a sequence and a combination will never completely register in my mind. Especially because of the post above mine.

Aussie Willy
10-28-2010, 06:05 AM
A jump sequence has no listed jumps between the two main jumps. Things like 1/2 flips, mazurkas, falling leafs, waltz jumps, etc.

Combination the second jump is done immediately after the first jump - nothing in between.

What was the sequence that Marina Keilman used to do? She had some funky thing with 1/2 dozen little jumps.

victoriaheidi
10-28-2010, 06:20 AM
So a sequence is something like 3F-3T, while a combination is something like 3T-1/2Lo-3S?

Did I just mix that up? I always do. I just refer to them all as "jumps."

Marco
10-28-2010, 06:28 AM
So a sequence is something like 3F-3T, while a combination is something like 3T-1/2Lo-3S?

Both are combos.

A 2axel done right after another 2axel is a sequence.