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UMBS Go Blue
09-30-2010, 05:02 AM
An article from the San Francisco Chronicle (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2010%2F09%2F26%2FMNJO1FGP SJ.DTL) that's too sensational not to share:

A Mendocino County (California) woman is charged with feeding wild bears to an extravagant extent from her rural, wooded 40-acre property. She has been doing so for years, and is apparently able to fund this hobby because her family owns the local gas station.


Gravier, known to almost everyone as the "Bear Woman," is scheduled to be arraigned in Mendocino County Superior Court on Tuesday on a misdemeanor charge of feeding big game. She is accused of turning her home into a bear Shangri-la, buying as much as 6,000 pounds of rolled and cracked corn every month and storing it in a 40-foot long shipping container.

Her oafish friends were given names like Smiley, Goofy, Connie, Biggie and Wombat. She admitted to setting up a kiddy pool on her deck for wallowing, and fixing peanut butter sandwiches for her guests, sometimes mixing in glucosamine to ease the arthritis pain in older bears.


It turns out that the ursine food dispensary that Gravier had set up on the 40 acres of woodland that she owns east of Laytonville was not only ill-advised, but also illegal. The house, piled high with filth, reportedly including bear feces, was condemned by county authorities on the day of the raid, forcing Gravier to move to another family-owned dwelling several miles away.

"This is probably one of the most severe bear-feeding cases that I have run into in my career," said Lt. Loren Freeman, one of seven California Department of Fish and Game wardens who served a search warrant on Gravier's house Aug. 24. "She was having food delivered by a ranch supply house."

Mendocino County, by the way, is a huge pot-growing area. One of the reasons why neighbors haven't been more aggressive in reporting damage caused by all the bears running amok is because they're afraid authorities will discover their own little pot plots. :smokin:

Tinami Amori
09-30-2010, 05:33 AM
:D...... if first offense - $ 175.00 fine......

California Regulation
251.3. Prohibition Against Feeding Big Game Mammals.
No person shall knowingly feed big game mammals, as defined in Section 350 of these regulations.
Amendment filed 1-1-08; effective 2-7-08.

350. Big Game Defined.
"Big game" means the following: deer (genus Odocoileus), elk (genus Cervus), pronghorn antelope (genus Antilocarpa), wild pig (feral pigs, European wild pigs and their hybrids (genus Sus), black bear (genus Ursus) and Nelson bighorn sheep (subspecies Ovis canadensis nelsoni) in the areas described in subsection 4902(b) of the Fish and Game Code. Amendment of section filed 6-28-91; operative 6-28-91.

:D

my little pony
09-30-2010, 05:41 AM
I think it's nice that she feeds them and gets them some anti inflammatories for their joints

LordCirque
09-30-2010, 05:44 AM
I don't understand why this is a crime

reckless
09-30-2010, 06:41 AM
I don't understand why this is a crime
Because wild bears that grow accustomed to being fed by humans may lose the ability to hunt in the wild. In turn, when the human stops feeding them, they may starve or, alternatively, turn to foraging in human communities, increasing the risk of encounters between humans and bears.

Tinami Amori
09-30-2010, 09:48 AM
I don't understand why this is a crime
If! and only If! the animals' habitat in a given area has not been recently been disturbed and animals are misplaced and disoriented until they settle in the "new situation", feeding them creates problems:

a) they lose ability to hunt/fetch for themselves in the wild according to their habits;

b) they lose the fear of humans, and not all humans are there to feed them, some are there to hurt them + they become exposed to automobile traffic and get killed;

c) the animals don't limit their prowlings to the houses which welcome them; they go into territories (private and public) where they are not welcomed and get eliminated by local Animal Care and Control or by humans who's property they destroy.

Wild animals can be danger to house pets. So you got to make sure Wild ones are safe, and Home pets are safe, and it takes quite an effort to coordinate. It's best to be consulted on the issue by specialists, and you got to make sure those in government positions who are supposedly "specialists" are really specialists.

In order to feed them TEMPORARILY without harm, one must carefully and intimately observe the specific situation and feed them only when it is clear that a particular group of animals is displaced due to local construction or other circumstances beyond their control (rerouting of a small creek which provides water, elimination of certain elements of their immediate habitat due to construction and other development).

And it is BEST to consult with local Wild Life Preservation organization AND to make sure that the people you're talking to are not just "sitting there for salaries wearing out their chair's seats".... And if one feeds and provides water - one must learn all there is to learn about the animal in the given area first. Or it can cause a great harm.

Satellitegirl
09-30-2010, 02:17 PM
As much as I love wildlife, I agree that this woman was really wrong. She's not doing the bears any favors. Wildlife shouldn't depend on humans to feed them. When I was younger I always thought it would be nice to "take care of" wildlife, but really, unless there is an orphaned animal, there's no way I'd step in. It's just teaching them bad habits, then they wander into places they shouldn't be, thinking that the people there will be welcoming too, and then they end up getting shot. On a lesser note, it's annoying when campers don't take precautions and a bear learns it can get food from a campsite, leading to it constantly going into campgrounds to get food. Then of course it ends up attacking someone when it's startled, and we have a dead bear all because some idiot couldn't keep their campsite clean.

It's another reason I don't care for "whale watchers" in the ocean. Whales get accustom to boats...next thing you know they're too comfortable and swim up to a boat which happens to be a Japanese whaling boat, etc.

Another example is how Timothy whatsisface the "Grizzly Man" was wrong. He was too far into the Bear's territory and much more close than he should have been. Wanting to be their friends, calling them by names, trying to get close and touch them to "protect them" and yet he was actually endangering them by his methods. He then of course was eaten by a bear.

Observe from a distance, but do not interfere. We don't need to be their "friends." We're doing them a favor by staying away. It's better if wildlife are afraid of us. Hell, I'M afraid of us, so I'd hope wildlife would be :P

And as Tinami said, let the professional Wildlife officials handle things. They know how to help if help is needed, in a way that keeps the animal out of harm's(and human's) way.

UMBS Go Blue
08-11-2011, 02:51 AM
Plea bargain:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/10/BAB21KL9OQ.DTL


A Mendocino County woman who transformed her home into a bear bohemia with wading pools and specially prepared banquets of corn meal and peanut butter sandwiches will not do jail time for doting on her hairy friends, but she will remain exiled from her property.

Lynne Gravier, 77, of Laytonville, pleaded guilty Monday in Mendocino County Superior Court to a misdemeanor for feeding big game, but prosecutors agreed to drop all the charges in three years if she stops communing with her Bunyanesque buddies.

oleada
08-11-2011, 03:28 AM
This reminds me of an episode of an Animal Planet tv show where an old lady starts feeding the bears around her cabin. More and more bears start approaching the cabin, and ended up eating the woman because she couldn't keep up in feeding them as much as they needed :yikes:

orbitz
08-11-2011, 03:30 AM
There will be some very frustrated bears when they arrive on her property to find no more food; They will destroy her property looking for food.

WindSpirit
08-11-2011, 04:50 AM
a) they lose ability to hunt/fetch for themselves in the wild according to their habits;

b) they lose the fear of humans, and not all humans are there to feed them, some are there to hurt them + they become exposed to automobile traffic and get killed;

c) the animals don't limit their prowlings to the houses which welcome them; they go into territories (private and public) where they are not welcomed and get eliminated by local Animal Care and Control or by humans who's property they destroy.

Wild animals can be danger to house pets. They can get killed by people and they can hurt/kill house pets, but it's a blessing they're not dangerous to people.


This reminds me of an episode of an Animal Planet tv show where an old lady starts feeding the bears around her cabin. More and more bears start approaching the cabin, and ended up eating the woman because she couldn't keep up in feeding them as much as they needed :yikes: Wait, they are?

Seriously though, it reminded me of the same thing. I'm amazed actually that some don't see a problem with humans feeding bears.

barbk
08-11-2011, 05:01 AM
Story on NPR today about the wild horses of Assateague (?) island, who've gotten so used to eating hamburgers, chips, and other people food that they aren't herbivores any longer -- and are quite comfortable being aggressive about going after the food even if it isn't offered.

They had a great exhibit at Yellowstone a dozen years ago -- a Toyota that the bears had simply peeled open to get to the goodies. It was Exhibit A in why you needed to ensure that you did not leave food, or even food wrappers in your vehicle.

barbk
08-11-2011, 05:04 AM
Seriously though, it reminded me of the same thing. I'm amazed actually that some don't see a problem with humans feeding bears.

I had a neighbor in LA that fed the damn pigeons. As if cities don't already have a pigeon population problem as it is. :yikes: Worse, at least some of the feeding was accomplished by throwing food on the roof of my apartment, which gave us the pleasure of listening to the Indy500 on the roof as they scrabbled around to get the corn.

heckles
08-11-2011, 05:37 AM
c) the animals don't limit their prowlings to the houses which welcome them; they go into territories (private and public) where they are not welcomed and get eliminated by local Animal Care and Control or by humans who's property they destroy.


d) At 77 the crazy lady going to kick off soon, and then who's going to take care of the bears, not to mention all the cats, dogs, peacocks, deer and other animals she's reported to be hoarding? Love all bears, both the four-legged and human kind, but this woman wasn't helping them out.

Holley Calmes
08-11-2011, 01:09 PM
We have a lot of bears in our neighborhood here in the North Georgia mountains. My husband encountered a big one this week while out on his morning run. Then this morning, he came in from his run saying "something really big" had smashed our plastic garbage can. Mr. Bear has been lurking! We've been here 14 years, and I've seen bears about once or twice each late summer, but they're pretty shy. If you don't have food on you or encounter a momma and babies, it's not very dangerous.

However, lots of people in the subdivision feed the deer. They put out corn, and of course the bears will eat anything. They also wreck havoc with bird feeders. A large "farm" (not a working farm but a private retreat) at the edge of the subdivision does also feed the bears, and it has caused some concern. They put out hams for them. REALLY!