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gladiatorqueen
09-10-2010, 05:32 PM
I found this fascinating that it's a controversy--particularly since it's been done before by Canadian artist Jana Sterbak--who did it for far more interesting reasons at the time rather than just for a media spectacle.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/accesshollywood/100908/entertainment/lady_gaga_draws_fire_from_peta_over_meat_bikini

http://collections.walkerart.org/item/object/957

Although, I guess, PETA didn't have as profound a presence in 1987 as it does now.

Satellitegirl
09-10-2010, 05:35 PM
*insert a think about the starving children, how vain comment here*

olympic
09-10-2010, 06:10 PM
I'm saying this as a fan -

I think she needs to step back from the spotlight before she oversaturates the media and everyone gets tired of her. Let us salivate for a while over the pending release of an upcoming album/film or something.

Madonna did/does this to great effect.

skipaway
09-10-2010, 06:16 PM
Lady Gaga....:yawn: Tyra did a meat shoot on ANTM.

Badams
09-10-2010, 06:24 PM
I'm saying this as a fan -

I think she needs to step back from the spotlight before she oversaturates the media and everyone gets tired of her. Let us salivate for a while over the pending release of an upcoming album/film or something.

Madonna did/does this to great effect.

Madonna did everything before gaga, that's why i find gaga boring.

StonewshMullet
09-10-2010, 06:46 PM
A living creature died so that someone could eat or be kept warm not cover Lady Blah Blah's lady parts. Seeing this annoys me, what a waste of life.

FunnyBut
09-10-2010, 06:59 PM
Yuck. I do like Lady Gaga and find her talented, but I wish she did not have to resort to cheap shock value so often. I also think she is largely derivative of Madonna.

Satellitegirl
09-10-2010, 07:06 PM
And "apparently" derivative of some woman's daughter that she wrote music for, who committed suicide. http://gothamist.com/2010/09/10/gaga_7.php

gkelly
09-10-2010, 07:13 PM
The title, though not the specifics, remind me of Carolee Schneeman's Meat Joy from 1964

mmscfdcsu
09-10-2010, 07:35 PM
Madonna did everything before gaga, that's why i find gaga boring.

Yes, every generation of adolescents has a figure like this. They find the mediocre music and "shocking" behavior exciting. It is normal development for adolescents to try on new identities (costumes) and consider issues of sexual identity. To an adult, the racy costumes and pseudosexual behaviors are not much different than when a two year old discovers it is fun to pull off the clothes and run around naked.:encore: It gets old and boring real quick.

manleywoman
09-10-2010, 07:47 PM
Agree that Gaga's interpretation of this one is just for media, and it's been done better.

As for he Madonna comparisons . . . it's inevitable I guess. Any female pop star coming after Madonna is going to be compared to her in the way they market themselves.

But there are some things I think Gaga does WAY better than Madonna. Mainly 1) she's an actual musician, and has some serious skills in that area, 2) she's not willing to go ugly. What I mean is, Madonna will never do anything that makes her look ugly, fat, bad, unflattering, etc. Gaga to me is more fearless than Madge since she's willing to go those places that Madge didn't.

But of course, Gaga wouldn't exist without Madge. So . . .

MikiAndoFan#1
09-10-2010, 08:49 PM
What a waste of money... and meat.

olympic
09-10-2010, 10:38 PM
Agree that Gaga's interpretation of this one is just for media, and it's been done better.

As for he Madonna comparisons . . . it's inevitable I guess. Any female pop star coming after Madonna is going to be compared to her in the way they market themselves.

But there are some things I think Gaga does WAY better than Madonna. Mainly 1) she's an actual musician, and has some serious skills in that area, 2) she's not willing to go ugly. What I mean is, Madonna will never do anything that makes her look ugly, fat, bad, unflattering, etc. Gaga to me is more fearless than Madge since she's willing to go those places that Madge didn't.

But of course, Gaga wouldn't exist without Madge. So . . .

I would go further and say that Gaga's image is different.

I agree with you. Madonna was all about sexuality and always made that front and center to her music, videos, etc. She always looked alluring. Even when Madonna went 'too far', it was all about sex

To me, Gaga is not really interested in allure. She just wants to transmit whatever is going thru her mind. Like you said, even if it's not that attractive. Some would call it 'weird' or 'strange', so that is why I think she's different.

She also seems more interested in straightforward rock n roll than M. I facebooked her and saw some interesting photos with KISS recently

FTR, both Madonna and Gaga have been very complimentary towards eachother.

orbitz
09-10-2010, 10:51 PM
she's [Madonna] not willing to go ugly. What I mean is, Madonna will never do anything that makes her look ugly, fat, bad, unflattering, etc.

Untrue. Madge has been on many "Worst Dressed" lists :lol:.


I don't know if it's a case of Gaga willing to go "ugly". I bet she thinks everything she put on is fabulous on her.

DickButtonFan
09-10-2010, 11:21 PM
Wow I must have bad eyes, I saw this a week ago and thought it was a pretty red fabric lol