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UGG
09-16-2010, 04:49 AM
Dear OldGoat - I remember well the time someone opened a thread (I forget on which board) with a title named something like "Happy MLK Day", and his being outraged at the idea of a special day for Michelle L. Kwan. :eek: (Yes, I know her middle initial is not L...he, apparently, did not).

IIRC, when it was explained to him that the day really honored Dr. Martin Luther King, he simply huffed that he had never heard of such a day (should I mention that I do believe he lives/d in Arizona, which was highly publicized as not celebrating that holiday several years ago)

I always wondered if he was Tara's grandfather.

LOL. I remember reading that. It was on tara world.

Simone411
09-16-2010, 05:46 AM
So I had to Google and go take a look. She is STILL talking about the "Smoking Gun" and ranting about her "view count" and eville people hacking into the board to mess with her view count. And she continues to post links to random news articles and attepmt to tie it back to her BigMKfan saga. I feel really bad because it is possible her head will explode as the "view counter" inexplicably raises. When I got to the post about the hacker disabling her new printer, I had to stop reading. And then chastised myself for poking the crazy even though I didn't post a word there. I sincerely hope she has some type of "supervision".

On a different note, after reading the members list I realized I have missed some scoop here!!! Someone should write a book or schill a script about experiences on the figure skating forum. Just thinking about casting the actors to portray the integral posters/characters makes me laugh!

Hi MaryMotorMouth. It's been a while and I hope things are going great for you. You know it's a strange thing regarding Barb. I wasn't around during the BigMKFan Saga but I heard enough about it.

There were so many crazy things going on back then. I was member of another board and someone had informed me of Barb's new board. Anyway, I ended up becoming a friend of Barb's. There were a lot times I couldn't understand what she was trying to get at and I told her on several occasions that all her dots, hyphens, letter bolding, etc. was very confusing. I decided to stick around because a lot of things she would discuss were pretty humorous and we became friends.

During that time, around 4 pseuds appeared at her board while she was out of town one weekend. Needless to say, havoc broke loose but I ended up becoming friends with some of those people/"pseuds" and they were members of PITI. We know the rest. It's a lot of history from the past and I became friends with several members of PITI including the owner. We know who the owner was so there's no need in mentioning her name.

Things happened and as I mentioned earlier in the thread, I was questioned about all kinds of weird crap and was eventually banned from PITI along with two other long time members.

If I went into a lot of detail, it would turn out like a book. Things were going on after PITI and a message board that I was an admin. of was hacked into and taken over. Numorous things began to happen. Eventually, the owner of PITI became friends with Barb. My friends and I ended up leaving Barb's board and Barb also left the board for about a year which was the end of either 2007 or 2008.

Around the beginning of 2008, I received an anonymous e-mail from someone and in the subject title was "I'm back bi-chez and it's GAME on." The e-mail was also sent to three of my other friends. Then I received another e-mail informing me that Barb had started posting again. I hesitated about going back there but I went. After seeing what was going on and getting the e-mail, I decided to hang around.

Barb does use her board as a blog and she's also a member of the BHW community. She has had a lot of trouble with someone hacking into her user account and messing with her board. My user account has also been hacked into on occasion. I've had anonymous e-mail threats, etc. which were also reported to the authorities and I believe Barb has done the same. We have discussed it at her board. The problem with my case is that the authorities have stated that the hacker is clever and can change IP addresses so it's been questionable as to the real identity of who it really is. It has been traced to a location but it's still not definite.

I don't know if Barb still thinks it's BigMKfan hacking her user account or not because she hasn't really mentioned whom it may be but it is for real and she's had some technical specialists in the past verify it. Barb is a friend of mine and I post at her board on occasion. She does post about a lot of political issues and she still posts about Michelle as well as I do.

I was never really sure about what actually happened with the medal project back in 2002 at MKF but Barb has mellowed out about it and she's more into the BHW community and world politics. I think she also enjoys the company since no one else posts there. :lol:

NancyNC
09-16-2010, 02:26 PM
Eventually, the owner of PITI became friends with Barb.

:wideeyes: Based on my recollection, I'm sure that's news to the owner of PITI! :lol:

skatingfan5
09-16-2010, 04:07 PM
I was never really sure about what actually happened with the medal project back in 2002 at MKF but Barb has mellowed out about it and she's more into the BHW community and world politics. I think she also enjoys the company since no one else posts there. :lol:FSU's Simone = ThinkTank's Angie. :wideeyes: Well, I'm glad to know that Barb has at least one friend. About the medal project, iirc Barb believed that the money collected should be invested and used to start some sort of charitable foundation -- and she herself could advise MK on that. When it was clear that wasn't going to happen, she withdrew her contribution, saying that she had been mislead about where the money was going. I'm sure there probably was more to it than that, but I have blocked out most of the crazy accusations posted on MKF from that time period.

Simone411
09-16-2010, 09:45 PM
:wideeyes: Based on my recollection, I'm sure that's news to the owner of PITI! :lol:

NancyNC, I know that sounds crazy but there was a time right before Barb stopped posting in 2008 and the owner was posting over there and was friends with her. Who knows but things can happen. :lol:


FSU's Simone = ThinkTank's Angie. :wideeyes: Well, I'm glad to know that Barb has at least one friend. About the medal project, iirc Barb believed that the money collected should be invested and used to start some sort of charitable foundation -- and she herself could advise MK on that. When it was clear that wasn't going to happen, she withdrew her contribution, saying that she had been mislead about where the money was going. I'm sure there probably was more to it than that, but I have blocked out most of the crazy accusations posted on MKF from that time period.

No, actually there was another person over there named Angie. Her username was skatinglady and she had a board called MKW. Barb made her a forum called Angie's World. :lol: I believe she was from NYC or somewhere. Barb always called me Ang. I guess she called me that so she wouldn't get me mixed up with Angie/skatinglady.

Thanks for letting me know what happened over at MKF. I had heard a little about her withdrawing her contribution but wasn't actually sure of the reason why. Now I understand why you blocked it out. I haven't read her old threads for years and I probably won't in the future, either. I'm sort of glad that I wasn't around there now because I would have probably blocked it out of my mind, too.

Seriously, she seldom talks about it now. Like I mentioned, she is into a lot of political stuff now and the BHW Community which is more or less like a real blog. It's not like her board.

genevieve
09-16-2010, 09:47 PM
what is the BHW community?

Simone411
09-16-2010, 09:56 PM
It is something called The Braveheart Womens Community. I haven't really read a lot of the blog but there are several members of the community. Some women that are members are well-known. I guess you could do a google search for it because I don't have the link right off hand.

skatingfan5
09-16-2010, 10:05 PM
It is something called The Braveheart Womens Community. I haven't really read a lot of the blog but there are several members of the community. Some women that are members are well-known. I guess you could do a google search for it because I don't have the link right off hand.Googling, I came up with this link:
http://www.braveheartwomen.com/

Yazmeen
09-16-2010, 10:33 PM
:rofl::rofl::rofl::lol::lol: I had forgotten about that. I remember thinking :huh: then :eek:. Thanks for all the memories! I always wondered if Old Goat and David55 found new obsessions.

David 55 and Dave Sato were definitely different people. Dave S was the one with the Tara Shrine and he also used to wear a football team jersey with Lipinski and the number 98 on the back to competitions (presumably custom-made). He did drive the MKF crowd a bit crazy but he was generally pretty good natured and harmless (although him going to a Limited, TOO! Tara appearance to get her to autograph photos was a bit much IMO, always wondered how the moms and little girls and the Limited people felt about that...)

David55 truly hated the Kween, along with another fan whose name was Ricky and who would post under psueds like "esongib" (spell it backward, you'll get the insult).

As for the poster Bondo, IIRC, I believe he was dating a fan who called herself Kiki or something, and I think she ended up later dating a certain board administrator (about whom I still wonder how he went from rabid Kween fandom to loathing MK and becoming a huge Sasha fan)...correct me if I'm "misremembering" about the dating situation

SharonDudd
09-16-2010, 11:49 PM
Didn't Dave Sato also go by Dr. Dave as well? For those of us who were on the late night chat room with the Wild Prairie Women, I seem to remember that the most. He was a huge Tara fan!

UGG
09-17-2010, 12:34 AM
LMAO I remember Bondo. What a weirdo. I will never forget some sort of theroy he came up with on why Sasha was a better skater than Michelle and i was because her first two trips to worlds she placed 4th (which =8) and Michelle's first two trips she placed 8th and 4th and that = 12 and 8 is less than 12. LMAO. It may not be exactly that but it was something as dumb.

VIETgrlTerifa
09-17-2010, 12:56 AM
Or how Kwan never won a GPF. When it was pointed out to him that she won the first one when it was still called The Championship Series Final. He was like "well, she NEVER won the GPF." I think his point was that Sasha was a better skater b/c of her one GPF win.

RD
09-17-2010, 12:59 AM
Honestly, does it really matter? I mean, what good does it do to try to prove that your fave is indeed "the best" or "better than everyone else"? I'll never understand the mentality.

musicgurl
09-17-2010, 01:02 AM
As for the poster Bondo, IIRC, I believe he was dating a fan who called herself Kiki or something, and I think she ended up later dating a certain board administrator (about whom I still wonder how he went from rabid Kween fandom to loathing MK and becoming a huge Sasha fan)...correct me if I'm "misremembering" about the dating situation

I remember that too. I was friends with them back when I still posted on SashaFans. I think I left before Bondo and Kiki broke up though. I went through a massive message board dry spell where all I really did was come on here occasionaly so I could get results for events. Its so weird reading this thread because I remember everything that happened so vividly. But I was like 13-15 when it all happened so I was massively confused as to why people were making a big deal about some things. I was also a massive Sale & Pelletier uber. My how 10 years changes things lol.

Sparks
09-17-2010, 01:37 AM
All this remembering and figuring out who did what to who is giving me a headache. ;)