PDA

View Full Version : Denney, Barrett announce coaching change



Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 8 9

Sylvia
08-25-2010, 07:54 PM
Caydee's younger sister, Haven, and her current pairs partner Daniel O'Shea (Daniel Raad is her former partner - that's a typo in the article) is mentioned as moving with Denney/Barrett to the Coral Springs rink at the end of this local article: http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2010-08-23/sports/fl-skating-pairs-0824-20100823_1_daniel-raad-barrett-and-denney-panthers-figure-skating-club

Here's a quote from Lyndon Johnston in this local Florida article: http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20100825/ARTICLE/8251021/2050/SPORTS?Title=Ellenton-loses-top-Olympic-skating-pair

Coach Johnston said the decision was a surprise but not unusual in the sports world.

“We were a little bit taken back and we tried to figure out if there was anything we could have done different,” he said. “We are proud of what we have accomplished with Caydee and Jeremy and they just really felt they needed another angle. We wish them all the best.”

OrioleBeagle
08-25-2010, 08:51 PM
I wonder if Berton & Hotarek will be moving to the US to continue training with John?

stjeaskategym
08-25-2010, 08:54 PM
I wonder if Berton & Hotarek will be moving to the US to continue training with John?

Was he their primary coach?

Sylvia
08-25-2010, 08:57 PM
Was he their primary coach?
Franca Bianconi is listed first as Berton/Hotarek's coach in their ISU bio (not yet fully updated for 2010-11): http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00012078.htm

sammyf
08-25-2010, 09:06 PM
I wonder if Berton & Hotarek will be moving to the US to continue training with John?

If Hotarek want's to try for Italian citizenship living in the US may be a problem. Another Czech skating for Italy, Zelenka just barely got his citizenship in time for Torino and he'd be living in Italy since he was a child.

Antonella
08-25-2010, 11:10 PM
does Silvia and John have some expirience in pairs coaching? I'm not really sure is this is The rigth move fot them. I hope she work on her posture and get some ballet classes, I thing she is a very powerful skater but her moves are so rough.

I wish the best for them with this change :)

Sylvia
08-27-2010, 08:06 PM
Another local Florida article (includes video of Denney/Barrett practicing and interview clips before they left for Champs Camp in CO): http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/recreation/fl-participant-column-0826-20100825,0,195359.story

[John] Zimmerman explained: "They're technically very sound skaters, on par with the top in the world. We have a little work to do on their relationship to each other. Some of their refinement on the musical interpretation side of things, we need to work more on that to really get them to create a package, a full unity [with] each other on the ice."

loopey
08-27-2010, 08:56 PM
Another local Florida article (includes video of Denney/Barrett practicing and interview clips before they left for Champs Camp in CO): http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/recreation/fl-participant-column-0826-20100825,0,195359.story

Thanks for the link Sylvia!

I think John's comment is exactly what everyone has been waiting to hear! Good Luck to them!

grandma
08-28-2010, 10:45 AM
I find it astounding when you watch the video, how he manages to lift her in the air so easily. Barret is not very tall they, don`t have a big height difference.
If you read the posts about the Mc Laughlin/Brubaker split , one could have the impression that Rockney was beginning to have issues regarding their height and weight difference. On the other hand Keauna was probably not willing to hold on to the hard weight regime etc, which is completely understandable.
Pair skating with its technical requirements today makes it easier if the girl is "frail". Like most of the CHN or Kavaguti......
In a long 4 Minute + free skate it is much easier for the male if he has a light girl on the 3rd lift than if you have a perfectly normal weighted and healthy girl. I know of trainers that say a female pair skater today should have a weight of 45-max 48 KG. It is difficult, because girls tend to become tall and they would be very underweight if they should always compliy to that rule
I like Denney/Barrett very much, because they are very athletic and are good jumpers.
Sorry they left Petersen. Must be quite a melt down in his training group in the past months.:(

figurefan
08-28-2010, 02:56 PM
Thanks for the link Sylvia!

I think John's comment is exactly what everyone has been waiting to hear! Good Luck to them!

Maybe I will be a little more optimistic now since it is obvious that John knows exactly what they need to work on. They are great jumpers, strong on the throws and he seems to lift her easily so hopefully John and his wife will be able to teach them more about performance and refinement.

shan
08-28-2010, 04:43 PM
Ice Network article

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100828&content_id=14028836&vkey=ice_news

kwanfan1818
08-28-2010, 06:13 PM
Thank you for the link!

D/B certainly picked a coach with a head on his shoulders and his priorities in order:


"I'm very excited about trying to get something different out for the Grand Prix," Zimmerman said. "I think before we even think about medals, we need to increase the level of maturity of the programs and strengthen Caydee and Jeremy's on-ice relationship. I think we can do it."

loopey
08-28-2010, 06:52 PM
Maybe I will be a little more optimistic now since it is obvious that John knows exactly what they need to work on. They are great jumpers, strong on the throws and he seems to lift her easily so hopefully John and his wife will be able to teach them more about performance and refinement.

I think it will take a couple of seasons to really see a huge difference, but it can be done.

stjeaskategym
08-28-2010, 08:53 PM
I find it astounding when you watch the video, how he manages to lift her in the air so easily. Barret is not very tall they, don`t have a big height difference.

I'm surprised you are astounded by this. :lol: Denney is rather short, and while Barrett is short as well, he is kind of built like a truck. When you get to Sr Pairs and the girl grows up, there aren't many "gorilla & flea" pairs. Unless you're Kavaguti, you're probably going to grow... Even a Chinese pair girl like Zhang grew to be very tall (5'5" ish) and her body changed even though she's really thin. Shen and Zhao don't have a big height difference either. Smaller size differences are one of the challenges of Sr Pairs. It's one of the things that makes Sr Pairs harder than Jrs. You have to adjust to skating with a woman rather than a pint-sized little girl, and these guys also do a lot of strength training. I'm more concerned about something like Denney's positions in the air rather than getting the lifts up.



Ice Network article

This pair seems rather driven. Hopefully for their sake, if it does not continue to go full speed ahead for them, they will have patience to work through it. You have no choice but to have patience because getting on a world podium quickly in pairs is just very difficult, especially if the field stays as strong as it seems like it will be. I don't think there will be a "quick fix" with this pair. At least they seem aware of their weaknesses and are putting forth a big effort to work on them...That's all you can ask of yourself. But for "major improvement", I would think they would need to do things like lock themselves in a ballet room.

spacekey
08-28-2010, 08:53 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmm. interesting