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Prancer
08-21-2010, 11:16 PM
We're doing far too many projects around the house and one of them was to get rid of the ugly paneling on one wall of our foyer. It was, I think, original to the house, installed in the 1960s. We thought it was just paneling and planned to tear it off and put up sheetrock, but lo and behold, the paneling was glued to the wall.

Our walls were all painted with old flat paint that had been mixed with sand, so it is very rough and can't get wet. So does anyone know of any way to get the glue off the wall? Because as you can see, it really has to come off: http://prancer.zoints.com/album/view/Foyer-88261

Just ignore the messy kitchen in the background :shuffle:.

Home improvement sucks.

numbers123
08-21-2010, 11:21 PM
I don't have any idea, but if you think that kitchen in the background is messy, you should see mine :rofl:

Reuven
08-22-2010, 12:07 AM
The easiest thing might just be to put ⅜ drywall right over it. You can try to sand it, but I think you’d have to pretty much seal the hallway with plastic, and if it’s sanded too much, you’ll remove the paper on the gypsum, which will make it impossible to paint.

Prancer
08-22-2010, 12:17 AM
The easiest thing might just be to put ⅜ drywall right over it. You can try to sand it, but I think you’d have to pretty much seal the hallway with plastic, and if it’s sanded too much, you’ll remove the paper on the gypsum, which will make it impossible to paint.

The problem with doing that is that the original paint with sand was put on in these decorative little swirls, sort of like ceiling paint, and we don't know exactly how to do that ourselves. When we first thought about putting up drywall, the drywall guy told us he didn't think he could replicate the look so it would match the other walls. He was poking around and found the walls behind the paneling and said, blithely, that we could just take off the paneling and paint. We'd have to remove the glue, but that shouldn't be too hard because it was all dry. Well, it IS dry, I'll give him that, but it's on there pretty thick.

Argh! Maybe we could have one smooth wall? I don't know how noticeable it would be.

:wall: I hate home improvement.

Reuven
08-22-2010, 12:25 AM
Unfortunately, creating that look does require a lot of skill. You may need a professional painter to do that. Sorry, I have no other ideas. :(

pat c
08-22-2010, 12:30 AM
What about a heat stripper gun? It would make the glue softer, but it's kind of hard to tell w/o touching it. What kind of glue is it? If heat would melt it and make it sticky, hmmmmm, but if it would just make it soft enough so that you could pop it off the wall using a trowel, that would work.

Would there should be some kind of solvent that would remove it.? But, it would still be grunt work, sad to say.....

Paint it another color as an accent wall, or use stencils or something. Lots of possibilities. :)

milanessa
08-22-2010, 12:31 AM
I'd go with Reuven's suggestion and paint it with a matching sand paint but instead of the swirls just pull the paint vertically. Same texture just a bit of an accent since it's an end wall.

rfisher
08-22-2010, 12:42 AM
If you can't match the paint technique I'd go with a contrasting color or even the same color but in a darker or lighter shade. It will save you tons of time and expense. If that paneling has been there for decades, you'll probably need a really strong solvent given the glues they used then, and given your sinus issues, I wouldn't fool with it.

cruisin
08-22-2010, 12:44 AM
The easiest thing might just be to put ⅜ drywall right over it. You can try to sand it, but I think you’d have to pretty much seal the hallway with plastic, and if it’s sanded too much, you’ll remove the paper on the gypsum, which will make it impossible to paint.

Yeah, I think that would be the easiest way to do it.

The other thing you could do is plaster over the wall. If you like the look of roughly plastered walls (stucco) the glue might not be a problem, just cover it.

I found this, but I don't know if it is your style. Also don't know what the color options are or how much control you have over the contrast. If it can be very low contrast, it might look like Venetian Plaster, which looks fabulous in light colors. http://www.wallpaperillusions.com/

In case you're not familiar with Venetian plaster. Not loving the color on this demo, but it can be whatever color and as light or dark as you want.

http://www.hgtv.com/video/stylish-venetian-plaster-video/index.html

I did it with a paint technique in my kitchen. I used a very light beige with a very, very light terra cotta. It looks like an old wall in Tuscany. You probably would have to go for the plaster technique, because of the glue. My walls were okay to just do it with paint.

ETA, read the rest of the posts.

Have you looked at paint for sueding walls? I know Ralph Lauren makes on. It has sand in it. I did my entire family room with it. It takes a while, but it's not hard (just on your shoulder). It has sand in it and you roll on the first coat. Then for the second coat you make curved X's constantly overlapping. Too bad I don't live near you, I'd help you. I've marbleized walls, faux Venetian plastered walls, crackle glazed walls, sueded walls. I do all of my own painting. I refuse to pay for what I can do myself :D

GarrAarghHrumph
08-22-2010, 01:05 AM
My husband, from a family of contractors, says that the only way to get the glue off the wall is to scrape it off, but that normally damages the plaster.

I'd put up 3/8" drywall. That's what we did. And do look at the Ralph Lauren sand paint - it might come close enough that it either blends with the other walls or if it's a bit off, maybe paint the wall a slightly darker version of your current paint color, and make it an accent wall.

Prancer
08-22-2010, 06:02 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions. FSU rocks! :cheer2:

But ugh. Just once I'd like to have some sort of problem with the house where the answer starts with, "Oh, that's easy! All you have to do is_______."

immoimeme
08-22-2010, 10:44 AM
I like the way the walls look now. That gluing pattern looks pretty darn cool to me. Modern art for free, whee! :smokin:

Auntie
08-22-2010, 12:18 PM
I love home improvement challenges, as long as they aren't mine. Do you know a good carpenter? I don't know if this is your style but you could cover the glue wall with beadboard or board and batten.

I can't really tell by the picture but can you enlarge the entrance to the kitchen? That would get rid of your problem too.

Aceon6
08-22-2010, 12:42 PM
I'd go for an accent wall with a wallpaper that mimics the size and general direction of the paint treatment. Apply leveling compound to the wall, then sizing, then paper away.

Why wallpaper? The problem is the doorway. If you apply anything thicker than wallpaper, you will have to redo the doorway and that's a challenge for most folks who don't normally work with drywall. Taping all the joints and getting them perfect with joint compound is not that easy.

If you have your heart set on drywall, it might be worth it to pay someone to apply the joint tape and the first two coats of joint compound. You can probably do the 3rd coat yourself if the person you hire does a good job creating the angles.

The only other thing that might work without redoing the doorway is very thin formica or similar material. Applying that is very tricky and requires that you ventilate the area for at least 24 hours.

Angelskates
08-22-2010, 01:41 PM
Home improvement sucks.

Oh well, at least you're still on holidays right? :P