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Ziggy
09-24-2010, 09:56 PM
Asli - thanks a lot for all the insights. :)

Well if he did have a serious knee injury that forced him out of football, then I can't imagine him making it to the 2014 season at all.

Once he starts to jump and do lifts regularly, the pressure on his knees will be immense and the injury will most likely start flaring up again.

Shame.

Orbitz - Bestandigova has retired a while ago. Being Turkish National Champion (just don't mention you where the only ones competing ;)) is only going to help her show career, I think.

Asli
09-25-2010, 12:23 PM
Ziggy, whether he is injured or not it is impossible to take this experiment seriously. He never put on skates till he was 30, he's never going to make the minimum score for the Euros, let alone qualify for the olympics. His injury only shortens the time he will enjoy playing at being a skater.

Still,as I said I am happy about the exposure he is giving to the sport. Plus if he tried he could bring in more sponsors with a phone call than the federation could with a year's struggle. I had never seen a Turkish skater on any kind of commercial - TV, written press, bilboards - until Ilhan appeared in this Clear shampoo commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVLRYJD3lN8)on skates and every bilboard was showing his skating photos. In the commercial he says that in skating, not only must your performance be precise but your hair must be perfect as well. Wheeeee! :rofl: He already knows the essentials of skating. He must read the FSU.

Off topic except for showing the variety of sponsors he could bring in: Don't miss this commercial of the Evy Lady sanitary towels (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pqSk-80qus). :rofl: x infinity.
In this macho sport, not many football players in the world who would accept to be beaten in beach football by a girl having her period - however good the sanitary napkins and however high the fee they earn. You go Ilhan! :kickass:

orbitz
09-25-2010, 01:00 PM
Cool shampoo commercial. It brought back memory of Dorothy Hamill's Short and Sassy commercial from the 70s. I can totally see Evan doing a commercial like that for Head & Shoulder, for example, but it's not going to happen.

Ziggy
09-25-2010, 03:45 PM
Ziggy, whether he is injured or not it is impossible to take this experiment seriously. He never put on skates till he was 30, he's never going to make the minimum score for the Euros, let alone qualify for the olympics. His injury only shortens the time he will enjoy playing at being a skater.

In other sports, there are loads of stories of people who have taken up a sport and became World Champions in a couple of years.

Of course skating is very different, much more difficult. But then didn't Johnny Weir start skating very late in his life and became Junior World champ after a few years of training?

The chance of them making it to Olympics is 0.1% but I'll reserve judgement until I see them compete. We need videos from Turkish Nats!

Thanks for the commercial link. We need exactly this. Mass media messages that make skating look super cool instead of the usual frumpy, old ladies/gay/whatever venture.

pennskater
09-25-2010, 07:10 PM
In other sports, there are loads of stories of people who have taken up a sport and became World Champions in a couple of years.

Of course skating is very different, much more difficult. But then didn't Johnny Weir start skating very late in his life and became Junior World champ after a few years of training?

The chance of them making it to Olympics is 0.1% but I'll reserve judgement until I see them compete. We need videos from Turkish Nats!

Thanks for the commercial link. We need exactly this. Mass media messages that make skating look super cool instead of the usual frumpy, old ladies/gay/whatever venture.

Johnny Weir's 'late' start was at about age 12...lol
In US most champions start at 3-5 years old.

grandma
09-26-2010, 10:18 AM
As the ISU is also putting a lot of significance on Adult Skating this is also a good promotion for our sport. I often have older people ringing up asking for training classes. The y have seen a skating movie or live sports coverage and now want to try out if this would be something to them.

Ziggy
09-27-2010, 10:54 PM
Johnny Weir's 'late' start was at about age 12...lol
In US most champions start at 3-5 years old.

That is an extremely late start. Most skaters start at 5-6 years old.

Most people would never imagine that somebody starting at 12 would be capable of achieving all he did.

Of course it's very different than starting at 35. ;D

But Ilhan used to be a top athlete and is physically in top shape, I would imagine.

I don't know - I am normally so cynical and bitter but I can't help being super excited about this team.

I know that their chances of making the Olympics are practically none but I have a lot of respect for him for trying.

Grandma - glad to hear that! :)

Hedwig
09-28-2010, 06:52 AM
ziggy. clear your pm box!

Artifice
09-28-2010, 09:06 AM
Eventhough this man could be brilliant enough to learn skating tricks fast, his knees injury will most probably hold him back.
To be an international pair skater he will have to learn the basic skating skills extremely fast, as well as jumps. He must be able to perform at least a double axel in competition, meaning of course that he has all the other double jumps.
This will require a full time training, several hours a day to make up for the late start and age.
And it's pretty much impossible. Figure skating is too hard. People tend to believe it's easy because champions make it look easy, but once they start they figure out how incredibly difficult it is.

To do so he has to be a super talent. But since he is already a gifted sportman, maybe nothing is that impossible. And as a man it's easier to learn jumps at a late age than for a woman (after puberty it gets difficult for girls to even manage to keep their technic + they are less powerfull than boys especially with female body characteristics, fat vs muscles...).
So I'll wait and see but I would not bet my money on their participation at any championship.
They could maybe participate in an adult event where I believe they belong to.

Ziggy
09-28-2010, 06:10 PM
ziggy. clear your pm box!

Ughhh that... :P

Message me on FB please. ;)

Doubletoe
09-28-2010, 09:48 PM
Oh ye of little faith! My money's on them to kick the Indian pair's a$$es! :kickass:

Ziggy
10-04-2010, 10:07 PM
Another clip. Sadly you don't get to see them skate much:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsxKMsTC_yA

Asli
10-04-2010, 11:10 PM
Another clip. Sadly you don't get to see them skate much:

I think we see quite enough. :shuffle:

allezfred
10-04-2010, 11:33 PM
"The negative things is that Ilhan has to learn figure skating." :rofl:

Andrey aka Pushkin
10-04-2010, 11:48 PM
Nah, he's not much worse than Bestandig :P