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Aussie Willy
08-09-2010, 11:35 PM
This is very frightening. Apparently the formula is causing greater hormone levels in babies than what a woman normally has.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iNx6qh89ybImBEnrkcNZDiglt2rg

John 3 17
08-10-2010, 12:09 AM
Horrific. I never buy anything from China ever since they poisoned the gluten that killed thousands of cats and dogs. It's horrific how they use their people as guinea pigs. Inhuman.

-Bridget

Wyliefan
08-10-2010, 12:11 AM
Ugh, that's horrible. And I've heard that hormones in milk over here may have something to do with girls having early puberty.

Anita18
08-10-2010, 12:35 AM
Ugh, that's horrible. And I've heard that hormones in milk over here may have something to do with girls having early puberty.
That's a lie, unless I've got some super-estrogen-resisting genes. :lol: As a kid I drank 10x more milk (and it was the stuff with hormones too) than any other girl I know and I had my period late and you can still do laundry on my chest.

That's not good for babies, though! :yikes: The melamine fiasco was such a facepalm situation. Like, poisoning pets is one thing, but putting in bad stuff that will feed your country's babies?!

bobalina77
08-10-2010, 12:38 AM
Same here Anita.. milk was the only thing I drank as a kid and I got nothing out of it lol.

Very strange that they would put that kind of crap in baby food.. good grief!

oleada
08-10-2010, 12:39 AM
That's a lie, unless I've got some super-estrogen-resisting genes. :lol: As a kid I drank 10x more milk (and it was the stuff with hormones too) than any other girl I know and I had my period late and you can still do laundry on my chest.

I thought it was all the hormones in chicken that were supposed to give you early puberty and breasts :lol: Anyway, I don't drink milk, and I have a big chest, so there's that theory.

Anyway, this is an awful story.

bobalina77
08-10-2010, 12:40 AM
I ate a lot of chicken as a kid too.. still do.. and still nothing lol!

PrincessLeppard
08-10-2010, 12:43 AM
Here's the most balanced article I could find on the issue...

And Anita, aren't you a scientist? You should know better than to pooh-pooh an idea just because it didn't happen to you. (even if you are right this time. ;) )

http://www.livescience.com/health/070904_bad_puberty.html

Anita18
08-10-2010, 12:48 AM
I thought it was all the hormones in chicken that were supposed to give you early puberty and breasts :lol: Anyway, I don't drink milk, and I have a big chest, so there's that theory.

Anyway, this is an awful story.
Nope. Was a certified meat eater and still nothing. :lol:


Here's the most balanced article I could find on the issue...

And Anita, aren't you a scientist? You should know better than to pooh-pooh an idea just because it didn't happen to you. (even if you are right this time. ;) )

http://www.livescience.com/health/070904_bad_puberty.html
If it was anything other than hormones, I would agree with you. :lol: Hormones are very potent even in very small amounts, and every body responds to it pretty much the same. So yeah, if there were hormones in milk or chicken that was supposed to make me a woman at age 12, it should have worked on me. ;)

walei
08-10-2010, 03:20 AM
Wasn't there something with poisoned milk a few years ago that broke out after the Olympics in Beijing?

Angelskates
08-10-2010, 04:23 AM
Wasn't there something with poisoned milk a few years ago that broke out after the Olympics in Beijing?

Yes, that was the melamine fiasco Anita18 referred to. Could get milk based drinks at Starbucks for a bit, as it was all made by the same company (I think Starbucks ended up getting different milk for a month or so after the crisis was over, just because everyone was still really unsure about buying milk). I don't think it was just after the Olympics though...I thought it was before them.

Karina1974
08-11-2010, 12:59 AM
Ugh, that's horrible. And I've heard that hormones in milk over here may have something to do with girls having early puberty.

One way to deal with the problem is to get rid of the soy additives in all foods. There shouldn't be any soy added to any food sold in this country. One of the side effects of soy consumption is early puberty:


Scientists have known for years that soy-based formula can cause thyroid problems in babies. But what are the effects of soy products on the hormonal development of the infant, both male and female?

Male infants undergo a "testosterone surge" during the first few months of life, when testosterone levels may be as high as those of an adult male. During this period, the infant is programmed to express male characteristics after puberty, not only in the development of his sexual organs and other masculine physical traits, but also in setting patterns in the brain characteristic of male behaviour. In monkeys, deficiency of male hormones impairs the development of spatial perception (which, in humans, is normally more acute in men than in women), of learning ability and of visual discrimination tasks (such as would be required for reading). It goes without saying that future patterns of sexual orientation may also be influenced by the early hormonal environment. Male children exposed during gestation to diethylstilbestrol (DES), a synthetic oestrogen that has effects on animals similar to those of phytoestrogens from soy, had testes smaller than normal on manturation.

Learning disabilities, especially in male children, have reached epidemic proportions. Soy infant feeding - which began in earnest in the early 1970s - cannot be ignored as a probable cause for these tragic developments.

As for girls, an alarming number are entering puberty much earlier than normal, according to a recent study reported in the journal Pediatrics. Investigators found that one per cent of all girls now show signs of puberty, such as breast development or pubic hair, before the age of three; by age eight, 14.7 per cent of white girls and almost 50 per cent of African-American girls have one or both of these characteristics.


New data indicate that environmental oestrogens such as PCBs and DDE (a breakdown product of DDT) may cause early sexual development in girls. In the 1986 Puerto Rico Premature Thelarche study, the most significant dietary association with premature sexual development was not chicken - as reported in the press - but soy infant formula.


The consequences of this truncated childhood are tragic. Young girls with mature bodies must cope with feelings and urges that most children are not well-equipped to handle. And early maturation in girls is frequently a harbinger for problems with the reproductive system later in life, including failure to menstruate, infertility and breast cancer.


Parents who have contacted the Jameses recount other problems associated with children of both sexes who were fed soy-based formula, including extreme emotional behaviour, asthma, immune system problems, pituitary insufficiency, thyroid disorders and irritable bowel syndrome



http://www.karinya.com/soydangers.htm

Anita18
08-11-2010, 02:20 AM
One way to deal with the problem is to get rid of the soy additives in all foods. There shouldn't be any soy added to any food sold in this country. One of the side effects of soy consumption is early puberty:
I'm Chinese and as stated above, I experienced late-normal puberty. By now everyone knows that Chinese dishes often utilize tofu, which is made of soy. ;) There's also soy milk which many Asians regularly drink (I personally never got into it) and soybeans etc etc.

AFAIK, Asians have not experienced unusually early puberty compared with other populations...

Buzz
08-11-2010, 02:41 AM
I ate a lot of chicken as a kid too.. still do.. and still nothing lol!


Me too. And still nothing doing. :lol:

Aussie Willy
08-11-2010, 03:31 AM
Not the same circumstance, but with some connection, another article about girls in the US developing breasts as young as 7. Basically saying that the age that girls reach puberty is getting younger.

http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/wellbeing/maturing-girls-grow-breasts-by-age-7-20100810-11y7r.html