07-07-2010, 04:25 PM
07-07-2010, 05:05 PM
It hasn't got to do anything with the a.m. skaters, but I was surprised to watch such old pictures:
Jaross-Szabo and willy boeckl:
07-07-2010, 10:07 PM
Excuse me, was a story about friendship with Hitler and wealthy father a funny joke?
I mean the thread was a fun as long as we don't have ANY videos of all those performances but what about comments? OK, Sonja had a friendship with Hitler and wealthy father but do we now how much it helped her to win her titles? Do we know for sure what advantage Sonja got due to all these facts? I don't think so. And that's how legends begin. That's why I don't like such speculations about the things we have no clue about.
BTW I would appreciate if some one could give us links to any films about skaters mentioned above or maybe their memoirs if there is any.
No, Fashionista, I wasn't making a joke about Sonja's friendship with Hitler and her wealthy father. If I'm not mistaken, this thread was started partly as a humorous reaction to some of the similar threads in trash can. Yes, people are attempting to offer comments (some tongue-in-cheek) without actually having seen the performances. Some video links and references to print material have been provided, thanks to bardtoob and Tarasirius. Perhaps if you read biographies written about Sonja it might shed more light regarding her career and the era in which she skated. I believe there is enough evidence that exists to conclude that Sonja was very talented, worked hard, made a number of innovations (skating costumes, ice shows), and that she helped popularize figure skating. The fact that her father was wealthy obviously made it possible for her to receive the best training, plus he also apparently had some political influence in the skating world. I'm not an expert, so my comments are based only on my general knowledge of skating as a fan, books I've read, old skating films I've watched. There's always more to learn. It would make an interesting project to research more about that era in skating.
Thanks a lot for all the links Tarasirius! These skaters' performances were state of the art back then, but they sure held their arms out in a stiff, mannered way. Jaross-Szabo (also spelled Jarosz), according to Wikipedia, "wore a skirt cut above the knee" at the 1924 Olympics. "Despite this, Sonja Henie is usually credited with being the first to wear short skirts in competition."
What little I've seen of Megan Taylor in these clips, I think I much prefer the skating clips I've seen of Cecilia Colledge and Sonja Henie.
07-09-2010, 12:35 AM
Maribel Vinson-Owen wuzrobbed in 1930! :mad:
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