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Bostonfan
07-04-2010, 12:46 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how Hogwarts is so utterly destroyed, because in the book Harry goes to the headmaster's office after the battle.

:confused: It's clearly not utterly destroyed in the clip. Hogwarts has always been shown to be a huge place. While the battle surely leveled part of the school, several areas were not breached in the book or in the preview clip - and that likely means Dumbledore's office remains intact.

Lorac
07-04-2010, 01:31 AM
Wow - I am so looking forwards to this - I just hope it isn't as big a disapointment as HBP was to me. (though please ensure we get lots of Alan Rickman - I just love him!!)

rfisher
07-04-2010, 01:40 AM
Wow - I am so looking forwards to this - I just hope it isn't as big a disapointment as HBP was to me. (though please ensure we get lots of Alan Rickman - I just love him!!)

Frankly, Alan Rickman is the best part of the movies. Brilliant casting. He is Snape. I just wish Ian McKellen could have played Dumbledore even if the inevitable Gandalf comparisons would have been made. Michael Gambon has never managed to capture the humor of Dumbledore and he makes him too weird. Richard Harris was OK, but McKellen would have been better.

ChelleC
07-04-2010, 02:28 AM
:confused: It's clearly not utterly destroyed in the clip. Hogwarts has always been shown to be a huge place. While the battle surely leveled part of the school, several areas were not breached in the book or in the preview clip - and that likely means Dumbledore's office remains intact.


It shows the outer courtyard as destroyed, which is much more destroyed than I pictured from the book. I pictured Hogwarts as damaged but no where near the level it seems to be showing.

Rhianna
07-04-2010, 02:37 AM
It shows the outer courtyard as destroyed, which is much more destroyed than I pictured from the book. I pictured Hogwarts as damaged but no where near the level it seems to be showing.

Maybe they're making up for movie!HBP when the Death Eaters seemingly broke in just to break a few plates and leave.

Theatregirl1122
07-04-2010, 03:53 AM
Maybe they're making up for movie!HBP when the Death Eaters seemingly broke in just to break a few plates and leave.

Hundreds of sleeping children and teachers, many of whom oppose the death eaters or have parents who oppose the death eaters, and oh right, the death eaters are EVIL. But we are supposed to believe that they broke into this nearly impossible to infiltrate castle and then all they do is BREAK SOME CROCKERY? This was easily the most annoying part of that movie for me.

rfisher
07-04-2010, 12:02 PM
Maybe it was supposed to be the *good* china.

I thought the end to HBP the movie was terrible. It totally ruined Dumbledore's death. Gah. I've nearly talked myself out of seeing DH. :lol:

KatieC
07-04-2010, 01:55 PM
Maybe it was supposed to be the *good* china.

:lol:


I thought the end to HBP the movie was terrible. It totally ruined Dumbledore's death. Gah.

Totally agree - I was never so disappointed in an ending. And don't get me started on why Dumbledore didn't stun Harry while wearing the invisibility cloak, instead, Harry just stood there like like a lump while his friend and mentor was murdered.

The Accordion
07-04-2010, 05:50 PM
:lol:



And don't get me started on why Dumbledore didn't stun Harry while wearing the invisibility cloak, instead, Harry just stood there like like a lump while his friend and mentor was murdered.

DON'T GET THAT AT ALL!! What a strange thing to take out - not in character and takes away the reason Harry "knows" it is true. I was squirming in my seat!

ebayj
07-06-2010, 06:35 AM
Don't get me started on the hot mess that was HBP. On to TDH - I just re-read the whole book twice while I was in Vegas over the holiday weekend, and I don't see any way they're going to even get down to two 2.5 hour films without a lot of judicious editing - there is just so much content and so much character dialogue and action in the book. Having said that - the trailer is pretty stunning.

Am I the only one seeing a great number of parallels between Harry and Frodo in Lord Of The Rings?

1. Both are orphans
2. A great mission is thrust upon both of them
3. They survive numerous narrow escapes, and many friends die en route
4. The future (good vs. evil) depends almost wholly on them
5. Their friends strongly support and encourage them, even when they feel defeated
6. Multiple encounters with all manner of mystical creatures and places
7. Huge historical back story leading to the final confrontation(s)

I'm not comparing Tolkien to Rowling - two completely different writers - but I have always wondered if Rowling was indirectly inspired by Tolkien's work.

Bostonfan
07-06-2010, 10:56 AM
#8 - Mentored by an older, wiser Wizard who sacrifices himself for the child hero.
#9 - Destroy the "one ring"/Destroy Horcruxes

You can apply most of this to Star Wars IV-VI for that matter. I suspect a good many writers have been inspired by Tolkien's work.

rfisher
07-06-2010, 12:14 PM
Who was inspired by the classic good vs. evil writers of centuries past. :lol:

The only parallel that really annoyed me was Harry wearing the damn locket.

vesperholly
07-07-2010, 12:47 AM
The only parallel that really annoyed me was Harry wearing the damn locket.

I know, like, just put it on a table! :duh:

I read an article a while ago that said Rowling was inspired by the rise of fascism leading up to WWII - all that "pure blood" stuff.

IceAlisa
07-07-2010, 12:51 AM
Hundreds of sleeping children and teachers, many of whom oppose the death eaters or have parents who oppose the death eaters, and oh right, the death eaters are EVIL. But we are supposed to believe that they broke into this nearly impossible to infiltrate castle and then all they do is BREAK SOME CROCKERY? This was easily the most annoying part of that movie for me.

OK, not to defend David Yates whose directing I dislike but the breakage was done by Bellatrix, right? She is supposed to be uber crazy with some sexual undertones when it comes to Voldemort. So no one would expect her to act rationally, just pure (crazy) emotion.

But there is no excuse for not DD not stunning Harry. None. :lynch:




I read an article a while ago that said Rowling was inspired by the rise of fascism leading up to WWII - all that "pure blood" stuff.
And as Prancer had correctly predicted, by Christian and preceding mythologies: self-sacrifice and death to save the rest with subsequent "resurrection".

Theatregirl1122
07-07-2010, 02:11 AM
OK, not to defend David Yates whose directing I dislike but the breakage was done by Bellatrix, right? She is supposed to be uber crazy with some sexual undertones when it comes to Voldemort. So no one would expect her to act rationally, just pure (crazy) emotion.

My issue is not that they broke plates. My issue is that they didn't attempt to kill any of the children. And I don't think Bellatrix is batshit crazy in a "I've forgotten to try to kill any of these sleeping children" kind of way. But even if she is, she wasn't the only one there.