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Ziggy
06-13-2010, 07:00 PM
Ziggy, Cannuscio & Lorello were aged out of Jrs; that's why they are in Seniors this eyar.

Thanks, I didn't realise.

On a different note, I know I should get over that already but I just can't wait to see Pang/Tong get highest PCS again for programs consisting of stroking around the rink. :P

Savchenko/Szolkowy better work on their consistency next season or I'll :lynch: them.

Erin
06-13-2010, 07:00 PM
Some more musings.

Don't understand at all why Hole/Johnson are moving up. If I remember correctly, they had neither 2axels nor any sbs triples and the throw triples weren't consistent either. Giving a second spot to Moore-Towers/Moscovitch or Brodeur/Mattatall would make much more sense IMO.


Others have already mentioned that they moved up because of Adam's age, but I wanted to correct that they actually do have sbs triples and double axels - in their free skate at Canadians, they did both SBS triple toes and triple sals (you could be mixing them up with Jones & Gaskell who do not have the jumps). I agree that they will likely still struggle in a senior field, but more because of the consistency issues that they showed last year as opposed to not having the jumps. That said, Kaleigh is brand new to pairs and I thought she showed a lot of potential last year, so we'll see what happens with another year of training.

Ziggy
06-13-2010, 07:03 PM
Others have already mentioned that they moved up because of Adam's age, but I wanted to correct that they actually do have sbs triples and double axels - in their free skate at Canadians, they did both SBS triple toes and triple sals (you could be mixing them up with Jones & Gaskell who do not have the jumps). I agree that they will likely still struggle in a senior field, but more because of the consistency issues that they showed last year as opposed to not having the jumps. That said, Kaleigh is brand new to pairs and I thought she showed a lot of potential last year, so we'll see what happens with another year of training.

Thanks, I haven't seen them at Canadians.

If I remember correctly they have tried the sbs triples at JGPF but fell. I have followed them on the JGP and I don't think they managed to land sbs triples there.

Nmsis
06-13-2010, 07:03 PM
Didier is being totally ridiculous giving Amodio one GP spot and Preaubert two. :rolleyes:
No, he's not.
Préaubert is 8th in the World standing and was guaranteed 1 GP. He's also 24 for the seasonal best. Getting 2 GP was easy for him.
OTOH, Amodio is 29th in the World standing, and 27th for the seasonal best. He wasn't guaranteed ANY event. He gets 1. The other is just a matter of time. DG is twisting the rules for his skaters but he can't do it so blatantly. :rofl:



Surprised to see Meite pull up to Seniors after the weak season she's had. Marocco had quite a good season but still, I'd think she could be much more successful on the JGP and maybe even make the final if consistent. So strange decisions from both of them IMO.
Not really. There are 8 JGP entries (6+2 home skaters at Courchevel) for the french ladies and there are other girls the fed wants to make their debut this season. With Méité, Marrocco and Silété in, there wouldn't have been much place left for the others.



I agree. Meite's had several less than succesful seasons on the JGP, but Marroco only had one event and she has far more potential than Meite. I thought she could've done really well if she had stayed junior.
Several ?
It was her second season. On her first, she did 8th and 6th at her JGPs, and this year 13th (THIS was a miss) and 6th. At 13 and 14, that's not that bad.
OTOH, Marrocco was very inconsistent 2 seasons ago and far more constitent this season, where she finished 9th at her JGP.



Marocco is probably the best hope for the future, but isn't Meite 18 or so? In France, she may be able to have a decent career, I think Silete is better though, but I'm assuming she's doing JGP again.
Méité is 15.
4 months older than Marrocco and a month younger than Silété.

Ziggy
06-13-2010, 07:07 PM
Thanks for all the information Nmsis.

Now that I think of it, Amodio's results have not been that great last season indeed.

I guess I got ahead of myself because Amodio is such an interesting and promising skater. And Quasimodo I would much rather see retire. ;P

stephanie2006
06-13-2010, 07:26 PM
Very happy about Meier not retiring. She's the only decent skater left in Switzerland at the moment after Lambiel's, Othman's and Dorsaz's retirements.

There hasn't been any official news about Meier and Othman yet, both said that they will think about their future.

Lanna
06-13-2010, 07:27 PM
The GPF standings links now work.

Men (http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2010/gpsmen.htm)
Ladies (http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2010/gpsladies.htm)
Pairs (http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2010/gpspairs.htm)
Dance (http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2010/gpsdance.htm)

SwingDancer
06-13-2010, 07:50 PM
The Zaretsky's are registered to attend two GP event, maybe they changed their minds.


The TBA spot for Russian Ice Dancing must be for Khokolova and Andreev :D

Lightspear
06-13-2010, 07:54 PM
Hochstein is too old for the JGP :( I'm incredibly shocked that USFS picked Carriere after his dismal season.

Steph -

Hochsteinf will be 20 in mid-July.

Re: Carriere - they must know/see something that you don't

Nmsis
06-13-2010, 08:00 PM
And Quasimodo I would much rather see retire. ;P
Préaubert may want to stay until Paris 2012.
Unless Besseghier or Ponsart, or another boy pushes him aside, which is still a possibility. :P

jlai
06-13-2010, 08:03 PM
I don't think that he is being punished. Jeremy always skates well in the US and most of the time, in Canada. What he doesn't do well a lot of the times, is skate abroad. Perhaps US Figure Skating wants to get him hardened as far as skating in foreign venues.

Not really. He did well last year at Skate Canada but at 2009 4cc, 2010 Olympics and 2007 Skate Canada his results weren't great. His two international results on US soil were mixed. Though he medalled on home ice at 2007 4cc, he was having issues at 2009 worlds.

I don't know what Jeremy requested (don't follow his facebook). But I think NHK would be the next logical choice after SA.

HisWeirness
06-13-2010, 08:09 PM
Ok. Here is my first attempt at a breakdown of who did and did not get a Ladies GP spot. It's hard to tell who is trying for the JGP or not. The first number in parenthesis is the number of GP spots the skater was assigned. The "ISU Age" is their ISU age for 2010-11 season. The proposed ISU age limits for 2010-11 are 15 or older for Senior GP and 13-17 for Junior GP.

ETA: Skaters in Bold have (1) GP so far. "New" means they have never skated in a Senior GP event previously.

In order of world ranking (Top 24) and then others entitled to 1 GP (Top 24 SB, JGPF, JW):

(2) Yu-Na Kim
(2) Mao Asada
(2) Miki Ando
(2) Laura Lepisto
(2) Carolina Kostner
(2) Akiko Suzuki
(2) Alena Leonova
(2) Rachael Flatt
(2) Kanako Murakami (new)
(2) Caroline Zhang
(2) Kiira Korpi
(2) Elene Gedevanishvili
(2) Cynthia Phaneuf
(2) Alissa Czisny
(2) Ashley Wagner
(2) Mirai Nagasu
(2) Ksenia Makarova (new)
(1) Joshi Helgesson SB 45
(1) Jenna McCorkell SB 33
(2) Sarah Hecken
(1) Elena Glebova SB 36
(2) Haruka Imai (new)
(2) Fumie Suguri
(2) Viktoria Helgesson SB 19 (new!)
(1) Amanda Dobbs SB 23 (new)
(2) Sarah Meier SB 24
(2) Agnes Zawadzki JW2 (new)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^all guarantees for at least 1 GP

#25-75 2009-10 Season SB list (listed in order of SB rank)
(1) Min-Jung Kwak 26 SB (new)
(1) Amelie Lacoste 30 SB
(1) Alexe Gilles 31 SB
(1) Myriane Samson 33 SB
(1) Valentina Marchei 34 SB
(1) Kristine Musademba 39 SB (new)
(1) Diane Szmiett SB 41
(1) Yan Liu SB 42
Cheltzie Lee SB 44 (*JGP?, ISU Age 17)
Angela Maxwell SB 46 (*JGP?, ISU Age 17)
Sofia Biryukova SB 47 (*JGP?, ISU Age 15)
Tugba Karademir SB 48
Oksana Gozeva SB 49
Emily Hughes SB 50 (assume retired?)
(1) Anastasia Gimazetdinova SB 51
(1) Sonia Lafuente SB 52 (new)
Julie Pfrengle SB 53 (*JGP?, ISU Age 15)
Ellie Kawamura SB 55 (*JGP?, ISU Age 16)
Maria Artemieva SB 56 11 March 1993 (*JGP?, ISU Age 17)
(1) Lena Marrocco SB 57 (new)
Quiying Zhu SB 58 (*JGP?, ISU Age 15)
Ivana Reitmayerova SB 61 ISU Age 18
Vanessa Grenier SB 63 ISU Age 18
Svetlana Issakova SB 65 (*JGP?, ISU Age 17)
Chae-Hwa Kim SB 66
Kristiene Gong SB 67 (*JGP?, ISU Age 17)
Ekaterina Kozireva SB 68 (*JGP?, ISU Age 17)
Sandy Hoffmann SB 69 (*JGP?, ISU Age 17)
(1) Mae Berenice Meite SB 70 (new)
Romy Buhler SB 71 (*JGP?, ISU age 15)
Alice Garlisi SB 72
Bingwa Geng SB 73 (*JGP?, ISU age 16)
Karen Zhou SB 74
Jasmine Alexandra Costa SB 75 (*JGP?, ISU age 15)

Host Picks
(1) Candice Didier FRA (no 2009-10 SB)

AliasJohnDoe
06-13-2010, 08:21 PM
Alissa at Canada and France!!! :swoon:

She can win both!!! (Seriously...she can!!! No, really, seriously...she can!!!) :rofl:

Stephanie
06-13-2010, 08:23 PM
Steph -

Hochsteinf will be 20 in mid-July.

Right, and you can't be older than 18 on July 1st to compete on the JGP. Grant will be 19.

Sylvia
06-13-2010, 08:23 PM
Looks like Grant Hochstein is currently the highest ranked man on the SB list without a GP assignment. I'm not counting Bradley because he reportedly did not submit his name for consideration. 6 U.S. men were selected this year (11 spots, plus 1 TBA at Skate America); last year 8 different U.S. men received 2 GP assignments each (16 slots).

Bolded names have been selected to the GP. "(new)" indicates it would be his GP debut season.

MEN not guaranteed a GP but next in line according to the ISU Season Best scores list (* = ISU Jr.-eligible):
25 Bradley USA - name not submitted for GP selection
27 Amodio FRA - 1 GP
28 Borodulin RUS - 1 GP
30 Sawyer CAN - 1 GP
31 Lindemann GER - believe he has retired? (ETA: because his name is no longer listed on the current World Standings list)
32 Wu CHN - 1 GP
34 *Messing USA - returning to JGP; did not submit his name for GP
36 Guan CHN - 1 GP
37 Carriere USA - 1 GP
38 Hochstein USA (new)
39 *Dornbush USA (new) - could still return to JGP but I heard he had elected to go Sr.
40 Yang CHN - CHN still has 2 TBA men
41 Kovalevski UKR - 1 GP
42 *Mahbanoozadeh USA
43 Berntsson SWE - 1 GP
44 *Yan CHN - expect him to return to JGP
45 Bacchini ITA (new) - 1 GP
46 Murakami JPN - 1 GP
47 *Rogozine CAN - expect him to return to JGP
48 Ten CAN - 1 GP
49 Pfeifer AUT (new) - 1 GP
50 *Dmitriev RUS - expect him to return to JGP
51 *Kovalev RUS - expect him to return to JGP
52 *Majorov SWE - expect him to return to JGP
53 *Bush RUS - expect him to return to JGP
54 P. Liebers GER - 1 GP
55 Chipeur CAN
56 *Nakamura JPN - expect him to return to JGP
57 Kazakov BLR (new) - 1 GP
58 *Gorshkov RUS - expect him to return to JGP
59 Russell CAN
60 Nanri JPN - 1 GP
61 Kanallakan USA (new)
...
Not on SB score list:
Mura JPN (host pick)
Besseghier FRA (host pick; new)

ETA: Thanks, HisWeirness! :) Please go ahead and post your Men's list here because I was too lazy to go down to 75! :P