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kwanfan1818
08-11-2010, 08:43 PM
It looks terribly difficult, you are right. Perhaps it was that or 1 GP. Tough choices.
It is an awful combination for them. However, if the Russian Fed had an option to turn it down due to being scheduled back-to-back, it's likely that a spot would have opened up along the way due to illness, injury, visa issues, etc.

SUN
08-11-2010, 08:58 PM
It is an awful combination for them. However, if the Russian Fed had an option to turn it down due to being scheduled back-to-back, it's likely that a spot would have opened up along the way due to illness, injury, visa issues, etc.

I was told that the situation with substitutes is the following:

-when somebody withdraws, the organizers pick up a replacement skater/pair/couple from the list of substitutes and notify the ISU about their choice. The ISU needs to approve this before the invitation is sent (they monitor and update the substitute list) and then put a new name(s) in the chart on the ISU website.
-after the approval comes, the organizers officially invite the substitute skaters.

So it may be the case that the RUS Fed. has not received the official invitation yet, and if nobody checked the ISU website today, they probably do not yet know about I/M invited to Canada.

What really wonders me, if the Rus Fed (skaters, coaches) decline the invitation because the 2 events are back to back and involve long distance travel-is it the excuse to remail on the list of substitutes and have a chance to get another assignment (may be even in Russia as TBA) or they will be crossed out of the substitute list and will remain with 1 event?

kwanfan1818
08-11-2010, 09:24 PM
I don't think the Federation has the choice of turning it down without I/M becoming ineligible for another. I think we were discussing what should be: if a skater is invited to back-to-back events on a different continent, the Fed should be allowed to turn it down, and the skaters should be able to be invited to another one down the road.

hanca
08-12-2010, 01:09 AM
I remember she had France and Russia and both are pretty short travel between them (at least not as between Canada and China) and only 2 hours time difference. This was not difficult for Mao considering that she was training in Moscow prior to GP.

Yes, that's the point. She was training in Moscow, then she went to some competition to Japan or where (it may have been the Japan Open or some other minor competition), then she travelled to France for GP and then to Russia the following week for another GP. All that within a month I think.

(I am not trying to make any excuses for her; the reason I mentioned it here is just that sometimes it happens that a skater is unlucky and has a bit of travelling within a short time space.)

Sylvia
08-12-2010, 01:29 AM
IIRC, didn't Asada request the first 2 GP events last year?

MikiAndoFan#1
08-12-2010, 01:39 AM
IIRC, didn't Asada request the first 2 GP events last year?

Yes, I think she did.

Coco
08-12-2010, 02:44 AM
IIRC, it was because it was Tarasova who wasn't up to lots of travel. Mao may have been better off with two events that weren't on back to back weekends, but who knows.

MikiAndoFan#1
08-12-2010, 02:50 AM
IIRC, it was because it was Tarasova who wasn't up to lots of travel. Mao may have been better off with two events that weren't on back to back weekends, but who knows.

I think I read somewhere that it was because Mao wanted more time to train before the GPF (if she had qualified). I'm not sure.

SkateSkates
08-12-2010, 04:50 AM
Yes, I think she did.

I thought she requested Russia but France picked her....maybe I'm wrong though

Sylvia
08-12-2010, 01:49 PM
Posted yesterday in the German news thread in GSD:

Beier/Beier have retired.
The Beiers' names have been crossed off the Skate Canada dance roster chart as of today.

ETA: See HisWeirness' updated GP dance alternates list below. :) Rubleva/Shefer's assignments are NHK (#1) and TEB (#6).

HisWeirness
08-12-2010, 02:44 PM
Fresh Dance GP Alternates List

Open Spots
NHK: 1 spot (TBA JPN), is most likely going to the Reeds
SC: 1 spot, cannot go to a Canadian couple (already 3 CAN couples entered)
CoC: 1 spot (TBA CHN)
SA: 1 spot (TBA USA)
RUS: 1 spot (TBA RUS)
TEB: 1 spot (TBA FRA)

All dance teams that were guaranteed one OR two GP assignments have received two GP assignments at this point.
Rubleva/Shefer (RUS) have 2 assignments, but there are reports (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2836297&postcount=374) wondering if they are going to compete on the GP this season.

Teams on the Alternates List with 2 GP Assignments
(2) 44 147.93 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Matej NOVAK CZE (NHK and RUS)

Teams on the Alternates List looking for a second GP assignment (SB ranking and SB are given)
(1) 29 159.60 Cathy REED / Chris REED JPN (*will most likely get TBA JPN spot too)
(1) 35 153.77 Isabella CANNUSCIO / Ian LORELLO USA
(1) 36 153.50 Rachel TIBBETTS / Collin BRUBAKER USA
(1) 40 152.43 Kristina GORSHKOVA / Vitali BUTIKOV RUS
(1) 45 147.92 Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO RUS
(1) 46 147.56 Zoe BLANC / Pierre-Loup BOUQUET FRA
(1) 47 147.37 Stefanie FROHBERG / Tim GIESEN GER
(1) 55 142.80 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN
(1) 63 139.29 Dora TUROCZI / Balazs MAJOR HUN
(1) 73 131.44 Xueting GUAN / Meng WANG CHN (Cup of China)

Teams on the Alternates List looking for an initial assignment
31 155.93 Caitlin MALLORY / Kristjan RAND EST - status???
37 153.22 Anastasia PLATONOVA / Alexander GRACHEV RUS - retired?
52 145.91 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR
57 142.49 Kira GEIL / Dmitri MATSJUK AUT
59 141.61 Carolina HERMANN / Daniel HERMANN GER - possibly taking Fall GP season off (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2840054&postcount=89)?
67 135.40 Irina BABCHENKO / Vitali NIKIFOROV UKR
68 133.81 Kamila HAJKOVA / David VINCOUR CZE - taking a year off (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2818330&postcount=92)
70 132.32 Allison REED / Otar JAPARIDZE GEO

coop
08-12-2010, 04:54 PM
Fresh Dance GP Alternates List

NHK: 1 spot (TBA JPN), is most likely going to the Reeds

JSF's web page says Reeds are to compete at NHK.

http://www.skatingjapan.or.jp/whatsnew/detail.php?id=1370&sports_id=2
(Pls read it via translator)

It also shows Takahashi/Marvin as competitors at NHK.

HisWeirness
08-20-2010, 02:27 PM
Lots of updates today!

Men (http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=1990)
Artem Borodulin (RUS) added to Rostelecom Cup, filling the spot vacated by Evgeni Plushenko. Borodulin's other GP assignment is to NHK Trophy.

Ladies (http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=1989)
As expected, Yu-Na Kim (KOR) has been crossed out of her assignments to Cup of China and Rostelecom Cup. No replacements have been listed yet.

Pairs (http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=1991)
Inoue/Baldwin (USA) have been crossed out of their (only) assignment to NHK Trophy. No replacement named yet.
Kavaguti/Smirnov (RUS) have been crossed out of their first assignment (Skate Canada). They are still scheduled to compete at Cup of Russia. No replacement named yet.

Also, McLaughlin/Brubaker's vacated spot at Skate America is now "officially" listed as a USA TBA.

Dance (http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=1988)
Rubleva/Shefer (RUS) have been crossed out of their assignment to NHK Trophy. No NHK replacement listed yet. Rubleva/Shefer have also been removed from TEB and have been replaced by Riazanova/Tkachenko (RUS) at TEB. This is Riazanova/Tkachenko's second GP assignment; their first GP assignment is to Skate America.
Frohberg/Giesen (GER) replace the Beiers at Skate Canada. This is the second assignment for Frohberg/Giesen; their original assignment is to Skate America.
Gorshkova/Butikov (RUS) have been given the Russian TBA to Rostelecom Cup. This is the second assignment for Gorshkova/Butikov; their original assignment is to Skate Canada.

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Updated Dance GP Alternates List

Open Spots
NHK: 1 spot (TBA JPN), is going to the Reeds according to JSF
CoC: 1 spot (TBA CHN)
SA: 1 spot (TBA USA)
TEB: 1 spot (TBA FRA)

All dance teams that were guaranteed one OR two GP assignments have received two GP assignments at this point.
Rubleva/Shefer (RUS) were removed from both of their GP assignments.

Teams on the Alternates List with 2 GP Assignments
(2) 40 152.43 Kristina GORSHKOVA / Vitali BUTIKOV RUS (CAN and RUS)
(2) 44 147.93 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Matej NOVAK CZE (NHK and RUS)
(2) 45 147.92 Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO RUS (USA and FRA)
(2) 47 147.37 Stefanie FROHBERG / Tim GIESEN GER (CAN and USA)

Teams on the Alternates List looking for a second GP assignment (SB ranking and SB are given)
(1) 29 159.60 Cathy REED / Chris REED JPN (*will get TBA JPN spot too according to JSF)
(1) 35 153.77 Isabella CANNUSCIO / Ian LORELLO USA
(1) 36 153.50 Rachel TIBBETTS / Collin BRUBAKER USA
(1) 46 147.56 Zoe BLANC / Pierre-Loup BOUQUET FRA
(1) 55 142.80 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN
(1) 63 139.29 Dora TUROCZI / Balazs MAJOR HUN
(1) 73 131.44 Xueting GUAN / Meng WANG CHN (Cup of China)

Teams on the Alternates List looking for an initial assignment
31 155.93 Caitlin MALLORY / Kristjan RAND EST - status???
37 153.22 Anastasia PLATONOVA / Alexander GRACHEV RUS - retired?
52 145.91 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR
57 142.49 Kira GEIL / Dmitri MATSJUK AUT
59 141.61 Carolina HERMANN / Daniel HERMANN GER - possibly taking Fall GP season off (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2840054&postcount=89)?
67 135.40 Irina BABCHENKO / Vitali NIKIFOROV UKR
68 133.81 Kamila HAJKOVA / David VINCOUR CZE - taking a year off (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2818330&postcount=92)
70 132.32 Allison REED / Otar JAPARIDZE GEO

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Updated Pairs GP List

* indicates JGP age-eligible.

Teams guaranteed 2 assignments (based on finish at 2010 Worlds) and received 2 assignments
(2) Savchenko/Szolkowy GER 1 WS; 4 SB
(2) Pang/Tong CHN 2 WS; 2 SB
(1^) Kavuguti/Smirnov RUS 3 WS; 3 SB ^have given up their spot to Skate Canada (injury) still listed for Rostelecom Cup
(2) Zhang/Zhang CHN 4 WS; 6 SB
(2) Dube/Davison CAN 6 WS; 8 SB
(2) Denney/Barrett USA 10 WS; 10 SB
(2) Bazarova/Larionov RUS 11 SB
(2) Evora/Ladwig USA 17 WS; 12 SB
(2) Berton/Hotarek ITA 24 SB

Teams guaranteed 1 assignment and received 2 assignments
(2) Iliushechkina/Maisuradze RUS 15 WS; 20 SB - China and Canada
(2) Della Monica/Kocon ITA 13 WS; 15 SB

Teams guaranteed 1 assignment and received 1 assignment
(1) *Takahashi/Tran JPN 8 WS; 19 SB; JGPF2/JW2 - NHK TBA & Russia (will get TBA JPN NHK spot according to JSF)
(1) Zhang/Wang CHN 9 WS; JGPF3 - NHK (removed from Skate Canada on 11 Aug)
(1) Brodeur/Mattatall CAN 11 WS; 22 SB - France
(1) *Sui/Han CHN 12 WS; 13 SB; JGPF1/JW1- America (also doing JGP)
(1) Dong/Wu CHN 14 WS - Canada
(0) Inoue/Baldwin USA 16 WS; 16 SB - NHK - crossed out of their spot at NHK
(1) Castelli/Shnapir USA 18 WS - Canada
(1) Kemp/King GBR 20 WS - America
(1) Yankowskas/Coughlin USA 21 WS; 18 SB - China (rumored to get a TBA at Skate America)
(1) Novik/Kuznetsov RUS 22 WS - Russia
(1) Martiusheva/Rogonov RUS 23 WS - Canada
(1) *Stolbova/Klimov RUS 24 WS; JW3 - America (also doing JGP)

Teams on the Alternates List that received one assignment
(1) 27 Moore-Towers/Moscovitch CAN - America
(1) 31 Simpson/Miller USA - Russia
(1) 32 Hausch/Wende GER - NHK
(1) 33 Hole/Johnson CAN - China
(1) 36 Sulej/Chruscinski POL - France
(1) 42 Lawrence/Swiegers CAN - Canada

Teams on the Alternates List with no assignments and not age-eligible for JGP
47 Zhang/Toth USA
52 Kostenko/Talan UKR
62 Bobak/Penasse CAN
64 Ivanova/Zalevski BUL

Host Picks
(1) James/Coia FRA - France (status?)

TBAs and Open Spots
(2) One NHK Trophy TBA (JSF is holding for Takahashi/Tran) and one open spot
(2) One Canada TBA (going to new team Duhamel/Radford CAN (http://apps.pjkwong.com/blog/?e=53014&d=08/20/2010&s=Catching%20up%20With%2E%2E%2E%2EMeagan%20Duhamel )) and one open spot not for a Canadian team
(1) China TBA
(2) USA TBA (one TBA is rumored to go to Yankowskas/Coughlin)
(1) Russia TBA
(1) France TBA

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Men
* means that they are JGP eligible.

All men that were guaranteed one OR two GP assignments have received two GP assignments at this point.

Men on the Alternates List with 2 GP Assignments
(2) 28 Artem Borodulin RUS (NHK and RUS)
(2) 41 Anton Kovalevski UKR (RUS and FRA)

Men looking for a second GP assignment (listed in order of SB rank)
(1) Florent Amodio FRA - 27 SB
(1) Shawn Sawyer CAN 30 SB
(1) Jialiang Wu CHN - 32 SB
(1) Jinlin Guan CHN - 36 SB
(1) Stephen Carriere USA - 37 SB
(1) Grant Hochstein USA - 38 SB
(1) Kristoffer Berntsson SWE - SB 43
(1) Paolo Bacchini ITA - 45 SB
(1) Daisuke Murakami JPN - 46 SB
(1) Jeremy Ten CAN - 48 SB
(1) Viktor Pfeifer AUT - 49 SB
(1) Peter Liebers GER - 54 SB
(1) Yasuharu Nanri JPN - 60 SB
(1) Zoltan Kelemen ROU - 73 SB

Men with one GP assignment and not eligible for a second assignment
(1) Takahito Mura JPN (host pick)
(1) Chafik Besseghier FRA (host pick)

Men looking for an initial assignment
Chao Yang CHN - 40 SB (CHN still has 2 TBA men)
*Armin Mahbanoozadeh USA - SB 42
*Kento Nakamura JPN - 56 SB
Joey Russell CAN - 59 SB
Austin Kanallakan USA - 61 SB
*Abzal Rakimgaliev KAZ - 63 SB
Javier Raya ESP - 65 SB
Ivan Tretiakov RUS - 66 SB
*Alexander Nikolaev RUS - 67 SB (JGP?, no ISU bio)
Gregor Urbas SLO - 68 SB (retired?)
Ming Xu CHN - 69 SB
Morgan Cipres FRA - 70 SB
*Jiaxing Liu CHN - 72 SB
Ronald Lam - CAN - 75 SB

Host Picks
1 TBA CAN
2 TBA CHN
1 TBA USA
1 TBA RUS
1 TBA FRA

SamuraiK
08-20-2010, 04:36 PM
So Yuko and Sasha wont make the final.. that's too bad. :(.

At least RiazanovaTkachenko and GorshkovaButikov will get 2 events each yay!!:D


With InoueBaldwin out (I guess for good) this is a great opportunity for a their first GP medal for DenneyBarrett:rollin::rollin:

Sylvia
08-20-2010, 04:45 PM
HisWeirness :kickass:!


Pair Teams guaranteed 1 assignment and received 1 assignment
(1) *Sui/Han CHN 12 WS; 13 SB; JGPF1/JW1- America (also doing JGP?)
(1) *Stolbova/Klimov RUS 24 WS; JW3 - America (also JGP?)

Sui/Han and Stolbova/Klimov are both on the initial roster for the JGP in Graz, Austria.