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Lanna
06-14-2010, 10:06 PM
There are a very limited number of GP spots, limited more by the limit of 3 skaters per discipline per country per event (for countries with deep fields) and limited again by the way skaters qualify for the GP. I don't think you can read "dumpage" or anything like that into a team not getting an event or a second event, especially any new senior skater/team that did not medal at the JGPF or JW (which guarantees them an event) and any old-senior skater/team that did not guarantee themselves an event. There is just too much demand and too little supply.

piano18
06-14-2010, 10:38 PM
An article in Maariv (http://www.nrg.co.il/online/3/ART2/119/917.html)


Frankly, if I were a Zar and had to stand PapaBoria and his ways I would probably retire much earlier.



Yes, before he has their head, literally this time :lol:.

TAHbKA
06-14-2010, 10:38 PM
Do the Zaretskis have college degrees and if not, do they intend to study?
Am not sure. I would say `no' to both, but then they participated the Universitiade on some grounds...

Ziggy
06-14-2010, 10:43 PM
Ziggy, you posted that the Kerrs have not made an official announcement about their plans for next season. Do you know if they are currently training and preparing programs with Platov while they make a decision?

Nope no idea. All I know is that they were hanging on and not decided about retirement yet from what other people were reporting on FSU.


An article in Maariv (http://www.nrg.co.il/online/3/ART2/119/917.html)

In a couple of words:

Zaretskis are retiring and announced their decision to the IIF.

But PapaBoria was not able to relay that message to the ISU so they aren't chosen for the GP? :rolleyes:

Andrey aka Pushkin
06-14-2010, 10:45 PM
And I guess Scali has managed to persuade Faiella that starting a family can wait.

By the look of her last season, he has managed to persuade that starting a family can be given up at all :yikes:



It will be such a :drama: battle for the TBA RUS spot between Rubleva/Shefer, Gorshkova/Butikov and Riazanova/Tkachenko.


Rubleva/Shefer have retired, so have the Zars. And most of other assignments.
I expect the similarity between the original list and the actual one, to be only very slight.

HisWeirness
06-14-2010, 10:49 PM
There's been some discussion about the ice dance assignments. Here is the breakdown of spots (using lists from Sylvia's posts) assigned.
Those in bold have 1 assignment. * indicates JGP age-eligible.

Teams guaranteed 1-2 assignments based on world standing, Worlds, SB, JW or JGP.
(2) Davis/White USA 1 WS; 2 SB
(2) Kerr/Kerr GBR 2 WS; 9 SB
(2) Virtue/Moir CAN 3 WS; 1 SB
(2) Pechalat/Bourzat FRA 5 WS; 6 SB
(2) Faiella/Scali ITA 7 WS; 5 SB
(2) Zaretsky/Zaretsky ISR 8 WS; 11 SB - retiring?
(2) Crone/Poirier CAN 10 WS; 12 SB
(2) *Shibutani/Shibutani USA 11 WS; 15 SB; JGPF3 (new)
(2) Cappellini/LaNotte ITA 12 WS; 14 SB
(2) Samuelson/Bates USA 13 WS; 16 SB
(2) Weaver/Poje CAN 14 WS; 22 SB
(2) Chock/Zuerlein USA 15 WS
(2) Hubbell/Hubbell USA 16 WS
(2) *Ralph/Hill CAN 17 WS (new)
*Monko/Khaliavin RUS 18 WS; 17 SB; JGPF1/JW3 (new) - must be staying Jr
(2) Huang/Zheng CHN 19 WS
(1) Zadorozhniuk/Verbillo UKR 20 WS; 19 SB - split???
(2) Bobrova/Soloviev RUS 21 WS; 13 SB
(1) Rubleva/Shefer RUS 22 WS; 24 SB - status?
(2) *Ilinykh/Katsalapov RUS 23 WS; 10 SB; JGPF2/JW1 (new)
(1) Alessandrini/Vaturi ITA 24 WS; 20 SB (new)
(2) *Paul/Islam CAN 18 SB; JW2 (new)
(2) Hoffman/Zavozin HUN 21 SB (new)
*Pushkash/Guerreiro RUS 23 SB (new) - staying Jr?
(2) Carron/Jones FRA 26 SB, 12th place at 2010 Worlds (new)

#25-75 Season Best scores:

(1) 25 162.82 Alla BEKNAZAROVA / Vladimir ZUEV UKR - split??
(1) 29 159.60 Cathy REED / Chris REED JPN (will most likely get TBA JPN spot too)
30 159.56 Allie HANN-McCURDY / Michael CORENO CAN - retiring?
31 155.93 Caitlin MALLORY / Kristjan RAND EST
(1) 35 153.77 Isabella CANNUSCIO / Ian LORELLO USA (new)
(1) 36 153.50 Rachel TIBBETTS / Collin BRUBAKER USA (new)
37 153.22 Anastasia PLATONOVA / Alexander GRACHEV RUS - retired?
39 152.56 *Marina ANTIPOVA / Artem KUDASHEV RUS
(1) 40 152.43 Kristina GORSHKOVA / Vitali BUTIKOV RUS
41 151.96 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Dmitri DUN UKR - split (new UKR team of Findlay/Dun)
42 149.94 Karen ROUTHIER / Eric SAUCKE-LACELLE CAN - split
(1) 43 149.64 Christina BEIER / William BEIER GER
44 147.93 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Matej NOVAK CZE
(1) 45 147.92 Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO RUS
(1) 46 147.56 Zoe BLANC / Pierre-Loup BOUQUET FRA
(1) 47 147.37 Stefanie FROHBERG / Tim GIESEN GER
48 147.19 Tatiana BATURINTSEVA / Ivan VOLOBUIEV RUS - split
49 146.96 *Anastasia GALYETA / Alexei SHUMSKI UKR
50 146.76 Katherine COPELY / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU - split
51 145.97 *Lauri BONACORSI / Travis MAGER USA
52 145.91 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR
53 144.74 *Charlotte LICHTMAN / Dean COPELY USA
54 144.53 Jane SUMMERSETT / Todd GILLES USA - split
(1) 55 142.80 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN :cat:
56 142.79 *Victoria SINITSINA / Ruslan ZHIGANSHIN RUS
57 142.49 Kira GEIL / Dmitri MATSJUK AUT
58 142.15 *Ruslana JURCHENKO / Alexander LIUBCHENKO UKR - split
59 141.61 Carolina HERMANN / Daniel HERMANN GER
60 140.65 *Geraldine BOTT / Neil BROWN FRA
61 140.53 Olivia Nicole MARTINS / Alvin CHAU CAN - split
62 140.33 *Valeria ZENKOVA / Valerie SINITSIN RUS
(1) 63 139.29 Dora TUROCZI / Balazs MAJOR HUN (new)
64 138.93 Evgenia KOSIGINA / Sergei MOZGOV RUS - split
65 137.17 *Carolyn MACCUISH / Tyler MORRIS CAN
66 136.71 *Oksana KLIMOVA / Sasha PALOMÄKI FIN
67 135.40 Irina BABCHENKO / Vitali NIKIFOROV UKR
68 133.81 Kamila HAJKOVA / David VINCOUR CZE
69 133.48 *Gabriela KUBOVA / Dmitri KISELEV CZE
70 132.32 Allison REED / Otar JAPARIDZE GEO
71 132.24 *Charlotte AIKEN / Josh WHIDBORNE GBR
72 131.50 *Veronique DE BEAUMONT-BOISVERT / Sebastien BURON CAN
(1) 73 131.44 Xueting GUAN / Meng WANG CHN (Cup of China pick)
74 129.93 *Maria POPKOVA / Viktor KOVALENKO UZB - split
75 129.81 *Anastasia CANNUSCIO / Colin MCMANUS USA

Many of the teams above without an assignment are looking to compete on the JGP (the ones with an asterisk *) instead of the GP I assume.

Host Picks
(1) Japan TBA
(1) China TBA
(1) USA TBA
(1) Russia TBA
(1) France TBA

Ziggy
06-14-2010, 10:50 PM
Rubleva/Shefer have retired, so have the Zars. And most of other assignments.
I expect the similarity between the original list and the actual one, to be only very slight.

They've posted on their website that the retirement rumour was not true (Rubleva/Shefer that is).

HisWeirness to add to your above list, Copely/Stagniunas have now split and he's searching for a new partner after silly Khoklova has turned him down.

caseyedwards
06-14-2010, 10:53 PM
Plushenko has said after the May surgery he will skip next season 100%, no speculation there. Why he is on the list I dunno, I thought Pissev would know it by now..couldnt they put another TBA?
!
I have seen lots of two TBA's. So they could have absolutely put two TBA. So it looks like Gachinsky is a defnite and then Borodulin because he has only one other assignment and I know last year they put Treytakov because he did great at a senior B so maybe they will see if there is a another Treytakov situaion and there be a surprise performance by a Russian male and them put them in the Grand Prix of Russia. Maybe Plushenkos withdrawl papers are not in yet or were never given or you know Yana put his name in LOL LOL.

Andrey aka Pushkin
06-14-2010, 10:54 PM
37 153.22 Anastasia PLATONOVA / Alexander GRACHEV RUS - retired?
48 147.19 Tatiana BATURINTSEVA / Ivan VOLOBUIEV RUS - split
50 146.76 Katherine COPELY / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU - retired

Could the Russian spot be reserved for Khohlova/:blah:Andreev?

oleada
06-14-2010, 10:57 PM
48 147.19 Tatiana BATURINTSEVA / Ivan VOLOBUIEV RUS
64 138.93 Evgenia KOSIGINA / Sergei MOZGOV RUS


These two teams split.


51 145.97 Lauri BONACORSI / Travis MAGER USA
56 142.79 Victoria SINITSINA / Ruslan ZHIGANSHIN RUS
62 140.33 Valeria ZENKOVA / Valerie SINITSIN RUS
65 137.17 Carolyn MACCUISH / Tyler MORRIS CAN
69 133.48 Gabriela KUBOVA / Dmitri KISELEV CZE
75 129.81 Anastasia CANNUSCIO / Colin MCMANUS USA


I'd assume that most if not all of these teams will be competing as juniors.

Asli
06-14-2010, 11:00 PM
Could the Russian spot be reserved for Khohlova/:blah:Andreev?

Will they be ready that early though? He first has to learn ice dancing. :shuffle:

Eislauffan posted in another thread that Yana told her they would try to show something at their national championships. She didn't mention the GP.

HisWeirness
06-14-2010, 11:02 PM
HisWeirness to add to your above list, Copely/Stagniunas have now split and he's searching for a new partner after silly Khoklova has turned him down.


37 153.22 Anastasia PLATONOVA / Alexander GRACHEV RUS - retired?
48 147.19 Tatiana BATURINTSEVA / Ivan VOLOBUIEV RUS - split
50 146.76 Katherine COPELY / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU - retired

Thanks for the updates, keep 'em coming. Gosh, the list is such a mess right now with all of the unknown statuses. :wall:

Looking for second assignment:

(1) Zadorozhniuk/Verbillo UKR 20 WS; 19 SB - split???
(1) Rubleva/Shefer RUS 22 WS; 24 SB - status?
(1) Alessandrini/Vaturi ITA 24 WS; 20 SB (new)
^^guarantee group

(1) 25 162.82 Alla BEKNAZAROVA / Vladimir ZUEV UKR - split??
(1) 29 159.60 Cathy REED / Chris REED JPN (will most likely get the TBA JPN spot too)
(1) 35 153.77 Isabella CANNUSCIO / Ian LORELLO USA (new)
(1) 36 153.50 Rachel TIBBETTS / Collin BRUBAKER USA (new)
(1) 40 152.43 Kristina GORSHKOVA / Vitali BUTIKOV RUS
(1) 43 149.64 Christina BEIER / William BEIER GER
(1) 45 147.92 Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO RUS
(1) 46 147.56 Zoe BLANC / Pierre-Loup BOUQUET FRA
(1) 47 147.37 Stefanie FROHBERG / Tim GIESEN GER
(1) 55 142.80 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN
(1) 63 139.29 Dora TUROCZI / Balazs MAJOR HUN (new)
(1) 73 131.44 Xueting GUAN / Meng WANG CHN (Cup of China pick)


Looking for first assignment:

30 159.56 Allie HANN-McCURDY / Michael CORENO CAN - status?
31 155.93 Caitlin MALLORY / Kristjan RAND EST
37 153.22 Anastasia PLATONOVA / Alexander GRACHEV RUS - retired?
39 152.56 Marina ANTIPOVA / Artem KUDASHEV RUS -Jr? (17/20)
44 147.93 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Matej NOVAK CZE
49 146.96 Anastasia GALYETA / Alexei SHUMSKI UKR - Jr? (17/19)
51 145.97 Lauri BONACORSI / Travis MAGER USA - Jr? (17/19)
52 145.91 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR
53 144.74 Charlotte LICHTMAN / Dean COPELY USA - Jr? (17/20)
56 142.79 Victoria SINITSINA / Ruslan ZHIGANSHIN RUS - Jr? (15/17)
57 142.49 Kira GEIL / Dmitri MATSJUK AUT
59 141.61 Carolina HERMANN / Daniel HERMANN GER
60 140.65 Geraldine BOTT / Neil BROWN FRA - Jr? (15/20)
62 140.33 Valeria ZENKOVA / Valerie SINITSIN RUS -Jr? (15/18)
65 137.17 Carolyn MACCUISH / Tyler MORRIS CAN - Jr? (17/19)
66 136.71 Oksana KLIMOVA / Sasha PALOMÄKI FIN - Jr? (18/18)
67 135.40 Irina BABCHENKO / Vitali NIKIFOROV UKR
68 133.81 Kamila HAJKOVA / David VINCOUR CZE
69 133.48 Gabriela KUBOVA / Dmitri KISELEV CZE - Jr? (17/20)
70 132.32 Allison REED / Otar JAPARIDZE GEO
71 132.24 Charlotte AIKEN / Josh WHIDBORNE GBR- Jr? (18/20)
72 131.50 Veronique DE BEAUMONT-BOISVERT / Sebastien BURON CAN - Jr? (18/19)
75 129.81 Anastasia CANNUSCIO / Colin MCMANUS USA - Jr? (17/20)

haribobo
06-14-2010, 11:22 PM
Will they be ready that early though? He first has to learn ice dancing. :shuffle:


:lol: :rofl: I enjoy this post very much.

Lanna, thank you for being a sane voice- I totally agree that some are getting all worked up about "I can't believe such and such are being dumped by their fed this way!" - occasionally this is kind of the case (would it really kill USFS to invite Hochstein to SA right off the bat after his great last season? Who else is close to being as deserving if Messing is going back to JGP? Hopefully Liberty and/or Skate Detroit will solve this issue once and for all) but a lot of times there are just too few spots to do anything about anything. Especially in men this year. So far, only Lysacek, Lambiel, Ponsero, Bradley, and possibly Plushenko seem to be taking time off/retiring. That's a lot of other guys fighting for spots! And of course, it really would help to know if teams like HM/C are still even competing before calling them robbed....

Iceman
06-14-2010, 11:24 PM
Has Caroline Zhang done anything to improve her jump technique? Coaching change and/or consulting with a technical expert? If not, I really don't want to watch her decline go further this year. It was torture to watch her last year. Everything looked so labored and imprecise.

Sylvia
06-14-2010, 11:28 PM
Has Caroline Zhang done anything to improve her jump technique? Coaching change and/or consulting with a technical expert? If not, I really don't want to watch her decline go further this year. It was torture to watch her last year. Everything looked so labored and imprecise.
A better place to post your questions may be on page 22 of the ongoing Caroline Zhang thread in the Trash Can forum ;): http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=72595&page=22