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professordeb
06-02-2010, 08:47 PM
Original series all the way - especially since I watched it when it first came out. Amazing it made it beyond a few episodes considering what they would have us believe
- a black woman who is smart and sassy and beautiful and considered just as good as the men, and better than them in some instances
- a Russian getting along with a "boy from Oklahoma" AKA Kirk -- all in the days of the cold war
- a Japanese man who was a great pilot and wielded a sword. Whew!
- some "alien" with pointed ears, green blood, who follows logic and masters his emotions (usually) yet banters with the best of them and has some wierd stuff he can do (mind meld, Vulcan neck pinch), extremely strong compared to the humans with whom he served
- other aliens -- Klingons, other Vulcans, Romulans, Andorians, those green-skinned women who make men go crazy with lust (and I can't remember what they are called)
- trying to make contact with unknown peoples and trying to do it peacefully but willing to fight if needed
- man vs. computers -- and man wins!!!
- first kiss between people of different "colour" -- Kirk and Uhura
- use of little people in a couple of episodes and making their part in the show one with some dignity
- no $$$ had to change hands to get anything -- usually.
- transporters and food replicators -- no cooking or cleaning (yipee).

Yep, I really liked what took place in those three short years. Don't get me wrong, I liked TNG and all the others but without the original I don't know if the others would have done so well.

Bev Johnston
06-02-2010, 08:59 PM
Here's something that will kick over some sacred cows: I know Roddenberry was brilliant in his concept of the shows, but I have to say that the more he let go of having a hand with TNG, the better it got. The first season or two were for the most part very campy (like the original show), with several notable episodes as the exception.


I believe Rodenberry died while TNG was still going strong. Did he turn over control before his death? I also believe that his wife, who appeared in many episodes as Deanna Troi's mother and who was also the voice of the computer, had quite a bit of "behind the scenes" involvement in the franchise.

Stormy
06-02-2010, 09:07 PM
I remember the season cliffhanger for "Best of Both Worlds" when Riker gave the order to fire on Picard/Locutus - right before the "To be continued" came on. I remember yelling, "NOOOOOOO!!!!" That summer waiting for the next season to start in the Fall was my version of "Who shot J.R.?".

Oh, me too!! The other moment like that for me was when they introduced Sela the Romulan as Tasha Yar's daughter. I always loved Tasha's character and I wish Denise Crosby had hung in there in the show longer.

Cloudy_Gumdrops
06-02-2010, 09:39 PM
Deep Space Nine, definitely.

I enjoyed the characters and I surprisingly liked all of the religious aspects going on. Chief O'Brien was my fave character.

I liked Worf on TNG, but I didn't care for him on DS9 and I hated the whole Jadzia/Worf marriage.

Twilight1
06-02-2010, 10:44 PM
Total trekkie and Voyager was my favourite. Never missed an episode and 7 of 9 was my favourite character.

TNG- was IMHO the 2nd best.

When Enterprise came out, husband and I were psyched and never missed an episode of it either but it wasn't as good as the other 2.

The original was just too cheesy. I couldn't get beyond the cheese. Though I find I do still watch that when it is on sometimes. I do like the movies.

Picard ST- TNG movies were definitely the best IMHO.

Holley Calmes
06-02-2010, 11:25 PM
TNG, followed by DS9. I've seen every single episode of TNG at least 5-10 times or more.

You and my husband! I think he wants to BE Picard. He watches them year by year in order, and when he finishes the whole thing, he starts over. I love TNG too, so I'm just glad he has something interesting to keep him busy.....

BTW-I heartily endorse William Shatner's recently published autobiography. I forget the title, but it's easily googleable. It's in paperback now. What a fascinating life! And, Kirk just IS Shatner. Huge ego but totally charming. It was fascinating to read about Gene Rodenberry and what a d***head he was. He was absolutely awful to the actors! Shatner also had a pretty interesting acting career-a very serious "artsy" one - long before he became Kirk. It's a fun read.

sk8pics
06-03-2010, 12:50 AM
Interesting about Shatner's autobiography.... I'll have to check it out.

I voted for TNG but I loved TOS and also DS9. Watched Voyager and Enterprise. Voyager always annoyed me because it seemed like they were insecure having written a female captain into the show and so they had to make her more of an expert than her own experts. :rolleyes: Still, some of the episodes with the Borg were great. And I loved the episode where the holographic doctor programmed his own holographic family and then experienced tragedy with them. Great stuff.

TNG was so great after about the first season. Loved Yesterday's Enterprise and the way they followed the ramifications of those events forward in the series. Loved the episode Darmok, where Picard and an alien captain face danger together and develop some shared metaphors so they could communicate. Loved loved loved Inner Light where Picard lived a whole other life under the influence of an alien probe. And yes, for the first part conclusion of The Best of Both Worlds, everyone who was at my house for a season finale party screamed at the TV all together.:lol: I still remember the horror of Picard/Locutus telling Riker that resistance was futile.

DS9 really grew on me and I enjoyed the story threads that dealt with the parallel universe that was first introduced in Mirror, Mirror. That is great concept continuity, from one series to another over, what, 30 years? It was great stuff.

Enterprise, I thought had so much potential that was never fulfilled. I remember a TV guide article describing the crew as having their hand on their hearts and their hearts in their throats :lol: and that sort of captured the wild eyed nature of it at the beginning. Loved the original theme song and skated to it in my very first competition.

And once, years ago at a Universal Studios tour in California, I got to play an engineer in the Star Trek Adventure. Coolest. thing. ever. I still have the video. A friend of mine got to play a Klingon crew member and he got to get shot by a phaser! It was great. I also went to the second Star Trek Con ever held, in NYC, in, IIRC, 1975. Sigh, those were the days!

Sassafras
06-03-2010, 12:57 AM
BTW-I heartily endorse William Shatner's recently published autobiography.

Up Till Now I recommend the audio version - he reads it himself. :cool:

LilJen
06-03-2010, 01:06 AM
You guys are SUCH DORKS!!!!

(So am I.)

toss-up between TNG and DS9. Early TNG was really, really bad. . . both series tended to be too preachy, but still were fairly entertaining. Never really got into Voyager or Enterprise. Whenever we have the Kirk vs. Picard smackdown conversation, hubby comes down on the side of Kirk (what? that fat egotistical idiot who can't act?) and I am all for Picard (who can and does do Shakespeare and other theater very well and looks good bald!).

GarrAarghHrumph
06-03-2010, 01:13 AM
I do like TOS movies - the one with Khan, and the one with the whales are my faves.

VIETgrlTerifa
06-03-2010, 01:33 AM
Whenever we have the Kirk vs. Picard smackdown conversation, hubby comes down on the side of Kirk (what? that fat egotistical idiot who can't act?) and I am all for Picard (who can and does do Shakespeare and other theater very well and looks good bald!).

Shatner was also a Shakespearean actor. Never saw him act in any though. I actually think he's good at what he does, and he has awards for his acting in the past so somebody must think he can act.

Jot the Dot Dot
06-03-2010, 03:32 AM
You forgot DS9 for your poll!

My fave is TNG, because of the characters. But I also really liked Enterprise... and often feel I am the only one who does. :lol:

Oops!

Kruss
06-03-2010, 03:58 AM
I believe Rodenberry died while TNG was still going strong. Did he turn over control before his death? I also believe that his wife, who appeared in many episodes as Deanna Troi's mother and who was also the voice of the computer, had quite a bit of "behind the scenes" involvement in the franchise.

I could be wrong, but I thought Roddenberry let go of control after 2 seasons and died during the 3rd season? I'd have to look it up. I just think that there was a distinct difference in the series especially after season 2, and it got significantly better.

Anemone
06-03-2010, 04:46 AM
I voted for TNG, but Enterprise & Voyager would be tied for a close second. DS9 is the one I never was really able to get into.

alchemy void
06-03-2010, 05:19 AM
Nerdiest thread ever. Love it! :cheer:

1. Voyager: I grew up with this series and despite its flaws find it the most consistently entertaining. Plus like others said I like how they're completely on their own.
2. TNG: I had a serious gay boy crush on Troi growing up (okay, I still do). My all time favorite episodes are from TNG but there are too many ridiculous/yawn episodes.
3. Original series.
4. DS9: I could never get into it. Someday when I'm bored I'll try to start again with season one but I've tried before and never made it past the first few episodes.
5. Animated series: Say what?