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Sk8swan
05-30-2010, 09:25 PM
It’s has been up in the air for a while now… following the footsteps of Marika Zanforlin & Federico Degli Esposti, another roller champion from Italy has switched to the ice. Matteo Guarise, 21, 2004-2006 World Junior Pair Champion and 2007 World Senior Pair Champion with Sara Venerucci has been training on the ice for a few months now in Milano and has recently joined Vassiliev’s group in St. Petersburg. He’s now skating with a russian girl, whose name will be revealed later on after all tests will be done. The pair plans to compete for Italy :)

http://www.doppioaxel.it/pagina_2.html (Italian only)

zotza
05-30-2010, 09:37 PM
I will become very shallow but...it's gonna be really good to see Matteo on the ice:cool:

Sk8swan
05-30-2010, 10:17 PM
I will become very shallow but...it's gonna be really good to see Matteo on the ice:cool:

:hat1: he's got quite some presence indeed ;)

Ozzisk8tr
05-31-2010, 12:03 AM
So Sara after her doping issue won't return to roller? Good on them. There's no Olympics to aim for in roller, which is so frustrating. Also pairs was about the only discipline on roller that I thought was ahead of Ice. Partly because of the restrictive rules on ice.

Sk8swan
05-31-2010, 11:59 AM
So Sara after her doping issue won't return to roller?

I won't count her out as far as roller skating is concerned. What's for sure she's not making the move to the ice with Matteo... I have mixed feelings about this to be honest... on one hand I think it would have made things easier if they both switched because they had great chemistry and experience together (thinking about the pair elements here)... on the other hand maybe skating with a born-on-the-ice skater will speed up the process of him adjusting to the new surface...

Ozzisk8tr
05-31-2010, 12:20 PM
Sk8swan I agree with your second thought about it speeding up the process of transitioning to the ice. I find Sara not too emotional when she skates and hope a new partner and skating surface will help her develop that aspect of her skating. Any word if her father (10 times world pairs champion for others who didn't know) is going to be assisting with any of the ice work? Has he already worked with any of the Italian ice pairs teams?

Fashionista
05-31-2010, 02:30 PM
I still don't get how they transform from rollers to ice skaters. It seems to be completely different disciplines. Edges, flow - how they deal with this stuff?

Sk8swan
05-31-2010, 05:52 PM
Sk8swan I agree with your second thought about it speeding up the process of transitioning to the ice. I find Sara not too emotional when she skates and hope a new partner and skating surface will help her develop that aspect of her skating. Any word if her father (10 times world pairs champion for others who didn't know) is going to be assisting with any of the ice work? Has he already worked with any of the Italian ice pairs teams?

Nope Sara is not trying on the ice... what I meant in my previous post is that she "might" compete again (with another partner obviously) on rollers not on the ice. So neither her father or her mother (who was her husband's coach btw) are involved in training ice pairs teams. Matteo and his new partner (if this is gonna work of course) will be coached by Vassiliev and some ice skating coaches in Milano.
Zanforlin & Degli Esposti might be involved with coaching Italian ice pairs in the future; actually they have already been asked for some advices about pair moves from the current top pairs.

Sk8swan
05-31-2010, 05:58 PM
I still don't get how they transform from rollers to ice skaters. It seems to be completely different disciplines. Edges, flow - how they deal with this stuff?

Well IMO Zanforlin&DegliEsposti have proved that the move is possible. They've done extremely well in such short amount of time and never training full-time because of their jobs.
Matteo will have a smoother path IMO as he's committing himself to the sport almost full-time (he does work as a model but that's a "flexible" job). Another strong point on his side is that he was also competing in singles as a roller skater so he can land 3-jumps with ease. Looks like he won't have much trouble mastering sbs 3toes and 3sal on ice.

Polymer Bob
05-31-2010, 10:23 PM
It's amazing what these people can do on roller skates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ31c213oXI

Ziggy
05-31-2010, 11:51 PM
Sk8swan a bit off topic but Zanforlin/Degli-Esposti have decided to quit competetive skating, right? :(

Ozzisk8tr
06-01-2010, 01:26 AM
It's amazing what these people can do on roller skates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ31c213oXI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKOmZ0aytME&feature=related
The above link is Patrick (10 times world champ)and his second partner. They are so inventive. Notice the split quad toe they do, and the amazing entrances into lifts. Also Caydee Denney was a former competitive roller skater, and her parents are roller coaches if anybody didn't realize.

Polymer Bob
06-01-2010, 02:13 AM
This appears to be mostly an Italian sport. The seats look to have a higher percentage full than at most blade skating events. :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPGd0ivnn6A&NR=1

Sk8swan
06-01-2010, 10:44 PM
There is so much more worth watching from roller skating...
Speaking about pairs only this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvqy3rMof7Y) is probably the best sp I've ever seen (the lp was even better but looks like it's not on youtube...)
This was Z&DE almost at their best (http://www.megavideo.com/?d=5MKLHFIK): they were the only ones to land 3 throw jumps + a quad twist in one program!
And I like this early program of theirs to Anna & the King soundtrack (http://www.megavideo.com/?d=RSD19S1S):)
About the guy mentioned in this thread: here's the gold meda performance @ 2008 Worlds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A_MCNf8em4), the sp from 2007 Worlds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdf4eKP16J)(loved it :) ) and then something unusual for figure skating: this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oakxnn64tp4) was like a play on rollers, Matteo & partner were main caracters... felt like you were watching theather... amazing coreography work and music choices! (this is just the final act, the whole thing last over 1 hrs - trailer here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcRVGHdQBH8)!)

Sk8swan
06-01-2010, 11:00 PM
Sk8swan a bit off topic but Zanforlin/Degli-Esposti have decided to quit competetive skating, right? :(

Ziggy just give me the time to update their site (tomorrow or the day after that) and you'll know :)