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phoenixflamezzz
05-26-2010, 01:51 PM
Because this year's F2 isn't giving us much to talk about.

From Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/25/carrie-underwood-clarkson-daughtry-business-entertainment-american-idol.html):

10. Kris Allen - 1.7m
9. Clay Aiken - 2m
8. David Archuleta - 2.2m
7. David Cook - 2.8m
6. Jennifer Hudson - 3.5m
5. Jordin Sparks - 3.7m
4. Kellie Pickler 7.6m :eek:
3. Daughtry - 10.2m
2. Kelly Clarkson - 11.7m
1. Carrie Underwood - 13m

Also, Billboard (http://www.billboard.com/features/top-24-american-idols-of-all-time-1004088662.story#/features/top-24-american-idols-of-all-time-1004088662.story) released a list of the 24 most successful Idols, from a ranking system that combined radio airplay, album sales, and single sales.

24. Allison Iraheta
23. Diana DeGarmo
22. Danny Gokey
21. William Hung :saint:
20. Kimberley Locke
19. Taylor Hicks
18. Blake Lewis
17. Bo Bice
16. Katharine McPhee
15. Elliot Yamin
14. Josh Gracin
13. Jennifer Hudson
12. Adam Lambert
11. Kris Allen
10. Ruben Studdard
9. Fantasia Barrino
8. David Archuleta
7. Kellie Pickler
6. Clay Aiken
5. David Cook
4. Jordin Sparks
3. Chris Daughtry
2. Carrie Underwood
1. Kelly Clarkson

Obviously, these can be debated to death by fans, but I just thought both lists were interesting to look at.

WindSpirit
05-26-2010, 02:53 PM
Because this year's F2 isn't giving us much to talk about. :lol:


Also, Billboard (http://www.billboard.com/features/top-24-american-idols-of-all-time-1004088662.story#/features/top-24-american-idols-of-all-time-1004088662.story) released a list of the 24 most successful Idols, from a ranking system that combined radio airplay, album sales, and single sales.

24. Allison Iraheta
23. Diana DeGarmo
22. Danny Gokey
21. William Hung :saint:
20. Kimberley Locke
19. Taylor Hicks
18. Blake Lewis
17. Bo Bice
16. Katharine McPhee
15. Elliot Yamin
14. Josh Gracin
13. Jennifer Hudson
12. Adam Lambert
11. Kris Allen
10. Ruben Studdard
9. Fantasia Barrino
8. David Archuleta
7. Kellie Pickler
6. Clay Aiken
5. David Cook
4. Jordin Sparks
3. Chris Daughtry
2. Carrie Underwood
1. Kelly Clarkson


William Hung ahead of Gokey, Iraheta, but especially ahead of Diana Degarmo? :huh: She's had a decent career for several years now. Wow. And Elliott Yamin after all those people? He's had a few CDs out, also a few hits that were played on the radio, etc.

taf2002
05-26-2010, 02:59 PM
I can't understand Jordan Spark's position on either list. I have never heard her on the radio...I thought all her CDs bombed.

Re Elliott, he is ahead of people like Bo Bice & Katherine McFee so he is having a decent career. It is Allison Iraheta that really surprises me..I thought she was doing better than this.

phoenixflamezzz
05-26-2010, 03:05 PM
I can't understand Jordan Spark's position on either list. I have never heard her on the radio...I thought all her CDs bombed.

What? Tattoo, No Air, One Step at A Time, Battlefield...all hit the Top 10 on pop radio airplay. Kelly is the only Idol that has more. And her combined single downloads is something like 9 million. Her first album went platinum. Her second album did bomb, though. But she had a VERY successful debut album. Plus, she toured with the Jonas Brothers and Britney Spears this year. That's alot of $$$$.

Beefcake
05-26-2010, 03:30 PM
:lol: The Pickle being ahead of five American Idol winners, Glambert, and J-Hud

and closing in on the gaiken

Jenny
05-26-2010, 03:35 PM
It's actually surprising that more country singers don't try for Idol, or that the show doesn't facilitate them getting to the top ten more often.

WindSpirit
05-26-2010, 05:54 PM
and closing in on the gaiken You're gay, how can you even find it funny? Besides, it's a 5-year-old kid's insult. Are you going to make a funny now using Kelly's name and the word fat? I'm laughing already.

Jayar
05-26-2010, 06:01 PM
You're gay, how can you even find it funny? Besides, it's a 5-year-old kid's insult. Are you going to make a funny now using Kelly's name and the word fat? I'm laughing already.

I'm gay, too... and I call him Gay Claiken. And Kelly Clarkson is not fat... although you just called her that.

Wyliefan
05-26-2010, 06:05 PM
Kellie's had some fun songs. I hear her on country radio pretty frequently, though she hasn't had a #1 single yet.

Allskate
05-26-2010, 06:26 PM
What did Clay Aiken do last year to earn him money? I haven't heard anything about him in quite some time.

It's not a surprise that Kellie Pickler is earning a lot of money. She does a lot of touring and she's doing country. Country sells much better than most other genres, where people are more likely to illegally download. Plus, country radio is good to Idols.

I think Casey James will be able to do quite well for himself if he does country cross-over.

Cheylana
05-26-2010, 06:38 PM
I guess Kellie Pickler is good if you don't mind nasal voices... :shuffle:

taf2002
05-26-2010, 06:43 PM
What did Clay Aiken do last year to earn him money? I haven't heard anything about him in quite some time.

It's not a surprise that Kellie Pickler is earning a lot of money. She does a lot of touring and she's doing country. Country sells much better than most other genres, where people are more likely to illegally download. Plus, country radio is good to Idols.

I think Casey James will be able to do quite well for himself if he does country cross-over.

Hasn't he been on Broadway for a couple of years in Spamalot? I think it's closed now though.

Beefcake
05-26-2010, 06:47 PM
You're gay, how can you even find it funny? Besides, it's a 5-year-old kid's insult. Are you going to make a funny now using Kelly's name and the word fat? I'm laughing already.
:wall: Get over yourself, for chrissakes!

Not that you deserve any explanation, but ... "the Gaiken" is a term of endearment Kathy Griffin used in her stand-up a couple of years back. I like Clay, for the record, and I believe that he's a good role model.

I also like Pickler, and will admit to liking a couple of her songs. Do you object to me caling her The Pickle, here on this private forum?

We use a lot of terms here that we'd never used in a blog or what-not. The Gaiken is one of those for me, but that's because I don't know him personally nor do I have an endearing gay public like the ultimate FH Griffin. I don't find it offensive when someone like Kathy using "the Gaiken", gently, in her act. And neither did Clay.

ETA: Yes, I'm gay (thanks for pointing that out, whew, what a relief!) Along the same lines of The Gaiken, et al, my gay friends and personal FHs may call me "girl" or what-not all they want. But it'd be offensive (and pretty off-base, lol) for someone else to use it.

Seerek
05-26-2010, 07:53 PM
Billboard's list is interesting cause it does include some of the contestants from the pre-digital era who benefited from higher physical CD sales in the early part of the 2000s (William Hung, Josh Gracin).

Kellie Pickler is actually currently opening for Taylor Swift - that can only help her rank highly in 2010 as well.

rjblue
05-26-2010, 10:05 PM
The Gaiken is one of those for me, but that's because I don't know him personally nor do I have an endearing gay public like the ultimate FH Griffin. I don't find it offensive when someone like Kathy using "the Gaiken", gently, in her act. And neither did Clay
Yeah. I'd like to be a mouse in the corner when Clay explains to his little boy that people call him "the Gaiken" because they like him. It's a term of endearment right up there with faggy. None of his fans, friends or family use the Gaiken. It's icky.

Although, on the other hand, Clay has made it very clear to his fans (but to no avail, they still go ballistic), that he has faced that sort of mocking his entire life and is a good place with it, and doesn't need defending.

Clay's earnings since he finished his run on Spamalot can only be guessed at, so I don't know where Forbes got the number. He has a PBS special that will be airing on some stations (starting in Chicago), and a new CD coming out on Decca records. He'll be on GMA and The View next week.