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Tammi
09-19-2010, 08:55 PM
I wonder what the reaction will be to Brobrova and Soloviev's FD considering the new music rules.I didn't really notice much of a tempo change. That could be a problem.

poths
09-19-2010, 09:01 PM
Great vids. Very excited to see Gerboltd develop as a pairs skater.

WHo is the girl skating to Tosca in the black unitard? Buryikova? She is so like Rochette. Shame about the No Teknk.

Leonova may have spunk and a decent choreographer but her edges are still shiteous and she has all the flair of a goat.

shan
09-19-2010, 09:15 PM
today video from http://fsnews.ru Odintsovo (Russia)

yay, more videos!! :cheer2:

BittyBug
09-19-2010, 10:31 PM
I wonder what the reaction will be to Brobrova and Soloviev's FD considering the new music rules.Well I really liked it. Loved how the first lift comes out of nowhere.

V&T's sbs spins are spot on, especially considering how new their partnership is.

Loved K&S's costumes. It thought the choreo was a little repetitive in the beginning, but overall the program has good potential.

Can't say I was particularly taken by I&K (and I wanted to be).

blue_idealist
09-19-2010, 10:58 PM
I really only watched these to see how V&T were doing. I think they're doing really well. The only thing they seem to have problems with are throws - it looks like he's having a hard time throwing her. I've never pairs skated so I don't know how hard it is to learn to throw a different partner, but she looks to weigh less than Maria M. Anyway, I liked both the SP and LP. I just can't get into K&S, blah. The only other program I watched was I&K's FD. I liked it.

parasolka
09-20-2010, 12:57 AM
They had different throw technique. And now working on adjusting. I thing they'll get it together soon.

angietang
09-20-2010, 03:55 AM
Katarina Gerboldt/Alexander Enbert's pairs skating looked OK to me . not so exciting as I expected. It seems that Katarina's jumping issue is re-appearing in her brand-new skating career. To be able to compete with the elite pairs teams in the world, they still have a long way to go.

I love K/S's SP, which is rather different from their previous programs, and it is good to see that they are skating with much more confidence than before.

I am wondering why Maria/Jerome did not show up at this test skate. Are they afraid of the fierce competitions within the current national team? Judging from the skating level shown by other Russian pairs team at the test skate, I think they do have a very good chance of making the national team in the 2010/2011 season! IMO, compared to their native competitors, they are the most elegant pairs!

dinakt
09-20-2010, 04:02 AM
My only problem with the Russian pairs is that I like too many of them, more than 3.

loopey
09-20-2010, 04:04 AM
Thanks for the vids. Nice to see I&M land the sbs 3toe!

Did I miss it, or are V/T missing a pair spin in SP?

Domshabfan
09-20-2010, 04:47 AM
My only problem with the Russian pairs is that I like too many of them, more than 3.

Yes, this is more because russians having being not winning titles recently and senior teams are not retiring. Instead some of the top teams are getting recycled and made more number of good teams are getting formed. Well, this quad Russia has to worry about large number of teams unlike beginning of the last quad where they had very few top teams to represent them .

equatorial
09-20-2010, 07:31 AM
Now I see why Tarasova went meh re I/K. They are clearly less prepared at the moment than other teams. But I love their programmes, recycled lifts notwithstanding. This is their first year in seniors, no big deal about recycling. Iffy twizzles disturb me much more. But they are both gorgeous in their FD. Methinks we'll see more in-betweens there as the season starts ;)
B/S look almost completely ready for the season, and their teknik is quite impressive. But she attacks the FD with all the lyricism of a seasoned porn star.

Eislauffan
09-20-2010, 07:55 AM
I am wondering why Maria/Jerome did not show up at this test skate. Are they afraid of the fierce competitions within the current national team? Judging from the skating level shown by other Russian pairs team at the test skate, I think they do have a very good chance of making the national team in the 2010/2011 season! IMO, compared to their native competitors, they are the most elegant pairs!

Mukhortova/Blanchard left for a two-months training camp in Chicago last Thursday. As far as I understand their programs are not completely ready yet. Everybody else was now doing a full run-through of their programs, and if they weren't ready for that they probably didn't want to look unprepared compared to the others. OTOH, Kawaguchi/Smirnov weren't ready to skate their LP and therefore just did their SP twice and nobody held it against them.

oleada
09-20-2010, 08:01 AM
I think it is a good move for I/K to go in a completely different direction from last year- now is the time to be working on technique. They seem to need A LOT of polish on that program still, but I am glad they are doing it. Like many others, I wish for a few more unusual lifts- but other than that, I am happy.

Me too. Obviously, it needs more mileage, but I like their FD. It's light, balletic and romantic, and it's completely different from what they did last year. I think it could really work for them. And wow, she is just a star; you can't get your eyes off of her when she skates.

I'm less convinced about their SD - I like the tango portion; but the waltz bit was rather blah.

I would like Monko/Khaliavin's SD a lot more if she ditched the skirt. I think they have improved a lot in terms of performance, though.

Eislauffan
09-20-2010, 08:26 AM
My impressions from Day 2 of the Russian test skate in Odintsovo (September 19).

Ladies
S. Biriukova. FS „Danse Macabre“.Not so great today. Only a 3R was clean, she stumbled/fell/two-footed/doubled other triple jumps attempts. But I still like her skating.
A. Leonova. FS „The Witches of Eastwick“. Aliona obviously was handicapped by her illness (cold) and lacked energy, so she made several errors on her jumps and was slow, but this program has a lot of potential, it is something different for her and interesting.
L. Tuktamysheva. FS „Asturias“. She skated really well, hit the 3Lz-3T and only fell out of a doubled flip. She looks really mature in this program. I love her attention to detail.

Dance
Ilinykh/Katsalapov. SD Waltz/Tango. This program looked more prepared than their FD, but they were off balance on the twizzles and lost some speed during the Golden Waltz sequence. Interesting music choice with a dark Waltz (apparently music by Schnittke) that switches to a modern Tango at the end for the sbs footwork. I liked that Waltz music and would prefer if they stick with it for the whole program, because the mood changes so abruptly.
Gorshkova/Butikov. FD Latin Medley. They fell on a curve lift. The program was rather generic.
Bobrova/Soloviev. FD „The Melody of the White Nights“. Lovely music, very nice lifts and they looked light on the ice. However, they seemed to hold back and it is disappointing that they once again use a FD in the same style. She fell on a step sequence.
Riazanova/Tkatchenko. FD Mexico. The music didn't sound typical Mexican. They had a lot of power, too much almost so that they looked a bit heavy. I'd prefer if they were more subtle. He is putting in a lot of emotions.
Monko/Khaliavin. FD Frida. Not surprisingly, they looked the most ready as they already are competing on the JGP. They did well and don't look juniorish.

Pairs
Iliushechkina/Maisuradze. SP „The Marriage of Figaro“ (modern arrangement). Very good. Not only they skated almost clean (except for the messy 3Tw and the sbs spin out of sync), but they really sold the program.
Gerboldt/Enbert SP. Struggled with some elements and finished after their music, but the impression is still good.
Kawaguchi/Smirnov. SP „Thus Spoke Zarathustra“. Better than yesterday. The 3T was good, the 3Tw again with a collision but not as bad as yesterday (I have actually seen good ones in practice, but in competition it almost always is messy). Overall I think this is a strong program.
Volosozhar/Trankov. SP „Carmina Burana“. Powerful and they had more flow than yesterday. Obviously this program is more polished than their FS. Nice high 3Tw.
Martiusheva/Rogonov. Unfortunately they messed up again. She fell on the throw loop, on the sbs 3S and stopped during the sbs spin. Too bad. She is lovely, but it doesn't look like she is getting more consistent.

Men
The Men are now Russia's biggest problem.
A. Dmitriev. SP „Nostradamus“. 3A, went down on 4T. He cut his left arm and was bleeding.
A. Borodulin. Polka by Schnittke. I liked this program a lot better than his FS. Landed a nice 3A and only stepped out of the 3T at the back end of his combo.
K. Menshov. Tango. This is a nice program, playful and with many details. 3A, 3T-3T, 3R. He was going for the quad but tripled.
A. Gatchinski. Pink Floyd. Cool program, interesting and different for him. 4T fall, 3A step out, 3R.
I. Tretiakov. SP „Valse Triste“. He skated clean with 3A, 3F-3T, 3Lz, but unfortunately he is a little boring.

I asked about Sergei Voronov. He is injured and therefore didn't come.

MarieM
09-20-2010, 08:27 AM
No wonder Tat was disappointed when she saw Ilinykh/Katsalapov. The lifts are recycled and the in between choreography is nothing special. It's actually kind of Shpilband-ish. The ending of the program doesn't work at all, imo.

Now I see why Tarasova went meh re I/K. They are clearly less prepared at the moment than other teams. But I love their programmes, recycled lifts notwithstanding. This is their first year in seniors, no big deal about recycling. Iffy twizzles disturb me much more. But they are both gorgeous in their FD. Methinks we'll see more in-betweens there as the season starts ;)

Me too. Obviously, it needs more mileage, but I like their FD. It's light, balletic and romantic, and it's completely different from what they did last year. I think it could really work for them. And wow, she is just a star; you can't get your eyes off of her when she skates.

I'm less convinced about their SD - I like the tango portion; but the waltz bit was rather blah.

I am a bit like Tarassova regarding Elena and Nikita.
The SD is actually a lot better than I feared. Their music choice makes it very interesting since it's mostly dark. Still, they need a lot of work to make the transition between tango / watlz work.
I am a lot more :confused: about their FD. Don Quixote ? Come on ! There are a ton of other music to use no ? Or at least, use it well !
It looks like they started to work on the program only one month ago. It still needs a LOT of work.
And their lifts SUCKS. They need to work on more challenging ones.

Bobrova / Soloviev sucks IMO. She has the grace of an elephant. She reminds me a lot of Samuelson. Great lines, zero personnality.