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Nomad
11-16-2010, 04:07 AM
Yes, but Finlandia scores are not a tie breaker for GPF qualification, which was probably chipso1's point.

I know, but this is Makarova's first year on the Sr. GP. A silver medal in her first GP event proves nothing.

burntBREAD
11-16-2010, 04:09 AM
I know, but this is Makarova's first year on the Sr. GP. A silver medal in her first GP event proves nothing.

In a very weak field...

Akiko popped 2 of her jumps, got downgraded on another, and had messy landings throughout..and still only scored about 2 points lower.

Sylvia
11-16-2010, 04:10 AM
2. Christina GAO (167.14) JGP Austria
3. Rachael FLATT (162.86) Skate America
4. Yasmin SIRAJ (161.75) JGP Sheffield

It's a little shocking to see Rachael barely ahead of Yasmin and behind Christina. They even had one less element than her.
Well, to play devil's advocate ;), here were their lower international scores of this season:
Rachael Flatt, NHK Trophy (161.04)
Christina Gao, JGP Germany (155.67) - her 2nd event
Yasmin Siraj, JGP France (140.64) - her 1st event

mgobluegirl
11-16-2010, 04:19 AM
...although where Ksenia will be skating on home ice she could be given a boost.

Does it really count as "home ice" when you don't live or train there? Part of the advantage of "skating at home" is not having to deal with travel/jet lag issues, and Ksenia will be dealing with those anyway.

chipso1
11-16-2010, 04:26 AM
Well, to play devil's advocate ;), here were their lower international scores of this season:
Rachael Flatt, NHK Trophy (161.04)
Christina Gao, JGP Germany (155.67) - her 2nd event
Yasmin Siraj, JGP France (140.64) - her 1st event

That's a very good point, and shows that Rachael, while not her best, has still been quite good and consistent this season.

Rachael's FS seems to be developing nicely, but I'm worried about her SP. The music cuts are awkward and jarring and it doesn't seem to be going over that well with anyone. I wonder if she'll revert back to "Sing, Sing, Sing" for the latter half of the season. I'd actually like to see her use "Summertime" for her entire SP, rather than doing the marching band mash-up. ;)

Jenna
11-16-2010, 04:32 AM
Does it really count as "home ice" when you don't live or train there? Part of the advantage of "skating at home" is not having to deal with travel/jet lag issues, and Ksenia will be dealing with those anyway.

Makarova lives/trains in the US full time. I think pinky166 was trying to imply that her scoring might be a little more lax because the event is in Russia, not an insane argument based on what we've seen so far this season in general.

pinky166
11-16-2010, 04:47 AM
Makarova lives/trains in the US full time. I think pinky166 was trying to imply that her scoring might be a little more lax because the event is in Russia, not an insane argument based on what we've seen so far this season in general.

Spot on Jenna!

cough....Patrick...cough...Chan :P

Theatregirl1122
11-16-2010, 06:59 AM
I know, but this is Makarova's first year on the Sr. GP. A silver medal in her first GP event proves nothing.

And my point was not about what is being "proved". It is about what counts in GP qualification. If Akiko and Marakova both finished with the same points, Marakova currently has an advantage since she has a higher score. However, I was not aware that Akiko and Ksenia are skating the same second event so obviously they can't finish with the same points.

smarts1
11-16-2010, 02:06 PM
I'm pretty sure Ando and Suzuki will go one-two in COR. The bronze will be a toss up. But then again, Suzuki might bomb (like she did at Skate Canada last year). Who knows? The event is in like 3 days. We'll know by then.

mgobluegirl
11-16-2010, 04:04 PM
I think pinky166 was trying to imply that her scoring might be a little more lax because the event is in Russia, not an insane argument based on what we've seen so far this season in general.

I thought that only happened in Canada :P

pinky166
11-16-2010, 04:10 PM
I thought that only happened in Canada :P

Japan too. Wipe out Kanako wins the bronze medal. And in the US, Armin was great but had the competition been elsewhere his FS score might have been a little lower, I mean his score was nearly identical to those put up by Jeremy and Tomas in their first GP FS, and while Armin is certainly good, I don't think he's quite at their level yet.

smarts1
11-16-2010, 04:12 PM
^ Yeah NHK tends to be a little inflated all around, as opposed to another GP like China.

chipso1
11-16-2010, 05:35 PM
Back to U.S. senior ladies...

I thought this Rachael Flatt quote (from this article (http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101114&content_id=16098888&vkey=ice_news)) was interesting:


Although troubled by an injury to her right foot, Rachael Flatt toughed out a solid program to win the free and climb from fourth after the short to second overall.

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"It certainly still hurts a lot, but I was just blocking out the pain and focusing on what I needed to do to get the job done," Flatt said. "It got worse by the end of the program. I just had to push through it.

"Mainly the pain is in my front tendon, it starts on the bottom of my foot and goes all the way up to my knee, so it's pretty uncomfortable."

If she qualifies for the GPF, I wonder if she would even compete? It might be better to let her injury heal before Nationals, but then again she's been a GPF alternate for the past two seasons, so she may want to tough it out and compete anyway.

RD
11-16-2010, 05:57 PM
I'm a little worried about her saying that. I hope she doesn't try to push through it just for the sake of "building up". She should rest it before it gets worse.

Sylvia
11-18-2010, 09:23 PM
Phil Hersh has an update on Rachael's injury today and I've posted the link in the Rachael's plans thread in GSD: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2952345&postcount=257

Long Island (NY) Herald article on Samantha Cesario: Skating towards success (http://www.liherald.com/stories/Skating-towards-success,28917?content_source=&category_id=5&search_filter=&event_mode=&event_ts_from=&list_type=&order_by=&order_sort=&content_class=&sub_type=&town_id=)
The article includes an Eastern Sectional Senior ladies podium picture (L to R): Joelle Forte (4th), Melissa Bulanhagui (2nd), Cesario (1st) & Kelsey Traunero (3rd).