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chipso1
11-07-2010, 09:52 PM
Thanks for your latest compilation of Senior ladies international scores, chipso1!

You bet! :cool:


12 Senior ladies will qualify for Nationals through the 3 Sectionals next week, and from your list, Czisny is scheduled to compete at Mids, Bulanhagui & Cesario at Easterns and Lam & Karen Zhou at Coasts.

All three Sectionals look to be competitive in their own ways: Easterns and Coasts have some great ladies battling it out for gold, and I think Mids will see a great fight for 2nd-4th (if Czisny competes) because the ladies there are so comparable score-wise.

Top Contenders for Senior Ladies at Sectionals (by regionals scores):

Pacific Coast Sectionals--
1. Vanessa LAM (156.41) JGP Ostrava
2. Danielle KAHLE (133.26) SWP Regionals
3. Carolyn-Ann ALBA (128.04) SWP Regionals
4. Karen ZHOU (123.63) Coupe de Nice
5. Keli ZHOU (115.45) NWP Regionals
6. Alyona BILASH (115.11) CP Regionals
7. Kristina STRUTHWOLF (112.90) CP Regionals
8. Sophia ADAMS (106.77) SWP Regionals
9. Ellie KAWAMURA (103.68) SWP Regionals

Eastern Sectionals--
1. Samantha CESARIO (135.68) NA Regionals
2. Melissa BULANHAGUI (133.72) Nebelhorn Trophy
3. Joelle FORTE (128.00) NA Regionals
4. Kelsey TRAUNERO (111.93) SA Regionals
5. Raina NARITA (104.42) NA Regionals
6. Jamie KIM (101.70) SA Regionals
7. Keilani-Lyn RUDDERHAM (101.12) NE Regionals
8. Courtney BIBBS (99.65) SA Regionals
9. Krista BUSSI (97.56) NA Regionals
10. Kendall WYCKOFF (96.85) NE Regionals

Midwestern Sectionals--
1. Alissa CZISNY (172.37) Skate Canada
2. Tatyana KHAZOVA (114.74) SW Regionals
3. Morgan BELL (113.84) SW Regionals
4. Katy Jo WEST (113.79) SW Regionals
5. Samiera ABOU-NASR (113.39) UGL Regionals
6. Kayla GRAYSON (112.56) UGL Regionals
7. Alicia HSU (110.79) EGL Regionals
8. Christina-Maria SPERDUTO (110.25) UGL Regionals
9. Amy NUNN (106.70) SW Regionals
10. Taylor KULPA (104.49) UGL Regionals

+ Chelsea MORROW, who scored (114.12) at the U.S. Collegiate Championships in August.

The battle for the final Mids spot could very well come down to Bell, West and Abou-Nasr, who are only separated by .45 in their respective regionals scores...

A full list of competitors and scores can be found at Sylvia's fabulous site :) http://unseenskaters.wordpress.com/sectionals/

Link to the U.S. Sectionals thread in the Kiss-and-Cry forum: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=75633

Coco
11-08-2010, 03:23 PM
I'm pulling for Kahle to get back to Nationals. That would be great!

JerseySlore
11-08-2010, 03:26 PM
Kahle is still competing? Where has she been??

RD
11-08-2010, 03:27 PM
I thought she retired...

query5
11-08-2010, 03:42 PM
if you are talking medal favorites regarding u.s. nationals for senior ladies they i think are more than 8
rachel, alissa, ashley, mirai, caroline zhang, christine gao, agnes zadawicki, yasim siraj, vanessa lam, kiri baga , amanda dobbs,-if she is competing senior, and a few others,
more likely medalist kinda of narrows it down to maybe5- 8.
it is who judges like, who skates well, and who wants it most.

Sylvia
11-08-2010, 03:43 PM
Kahle is still competing? Where has she been??
Danielle Kahle's last Nationals appearance was in 2008 (12th). She was 7th at Pacific Coast Sectionals 2 years ago and 6th last year. She's 21 years old now and had a very good Regionals competition last month, landing triples through flip in winning the SWP Regional title.

Sylvia
11-08-2010, 05:12 PM
Moved from the Nagasu thread:

The one US lady I'm concerned about right now is Ashley Wagner :(
Tweeted after an exhibition at the Skating Club of Wilmington this past weekend: http://twitter.com/AshWagner2010/status/1007219189489664
"Exhibition today...put a solid short out I'm feeling good :)"

RD
11-08-2010, 05:28 PM
Talk is talk. ;)

flyingsit
11-08-2010, 05:42 PM
Exactly. She talked last summer about having completely fixed her flutz... and it was as bad as ever at her first GP.

olympic
11-08-2010, 06:10 PM
Updated List -- Through Cup of China
Just for fun! :)

Top scoring U.S. Senior Ladies

1. Alissa CZISNY (172.37) Skate Canada
2. Christina GAO (167.14) JGP Austria
3. Yasmin SIRAJ (161.75) JGP Sheffield
4. Rachael FLATT (161.04) NHK Trophy
5. Vanessa LAM (156.41) JGP Ostrava
6. Agnes ZAWADZKI (154.35) Skate Canada

7. Mirai NAGASU (146.23) Cup of China
8. Ashley WAGNER (143.73) NHK Trophy
9. Kiri BAGA (138.70) JGP Japan
10. Kristiene GONG (134.32) JGP Sheffield
11. Caroline ZHANG (133.86) NHK Trophy
12. Melissa BULANHAGUI (133.72) Nebelhorn Trophy

13. Amanda DOBBS (132.45) Cup of China
14. Alexe GILLES (125.64) Skate Canada
15. Karen ZHOU (123.63) Coupe de Nice
16. Felicia ZHANG (123.16) JGP Dresden
17. Samantha CESARIO (122.39) JGP Romania
18. Kristine MUSADEMBA (119.45) Cup of China


SA: Flatt, C. Zhang, Gilles
CoR: Zawadzki, Wagner
TEB: Czisny, Nagasu


Looking at the scores, I would say this-

Czisny- outperforming expectations set for her. She's inserted herself back into the mix, BUT - she's done this before how many times? Started out strongly only to end her season with a whimper? Perhaps Yuka and Jason are the key this time, though.

Flatt- In comparison to last year, she's also outperforming expectations at this point after the first GP. Right now, she's on track and a threat to the top spot. A lot of her trajectory will depend on her SA performance where she broke out last season: Will she do a 3-3, etc.?

Gao- She's more of a podium threat this year than last year just based on her scores and consistency. However, will Nats judges hold her back. She's still competing in the JGP series. I wonder if the judges would consider that and make her wait her turn if it's close between her and others like Flatt, Nagasu, Zawadzki, etc.

Zawadzki- I think she stands more of a chance than Gao of making the team just based upon the above. She has more of the package right now. Beautiful lutz and toe. Some of her spins are decent, too. I think she'd benefit moving away from Zakrzajek [sp?]

Nagasu- Not alarmed...yet [look at Asada]. She seemed able to shrug it all off at CoC. But she needs to bring it at the next event to not fall behind the 8-ball. IMO, US judges at Nats will still give her the benefit of the doubt if she's hot at Nats due to her Olympic and SP performances

Wagner- Most concerned about Wagner! She's really underperforming in comparison to last season. She seemed to have exhibited all her worst traits at NHK - The LP got completely away from her like the SP at '09 nats. I really hope she can do it at CoR. She's lovely and has the complete package [good speed, flexibility, power] But, the newer youngsters will probably slot in front of her if she doesn't deliver soon.

I don't have an opinion on Vanessa, Yasmin, Kiri, etc. My hunch is that the judges will make them wait their turns and only be ahead of the ladies above if they skate lights out and others make mistakes.

Zhang -sigh. I give her tons of credit for trying hard to fix her technique but will it matter? Is it enough?? She will be in the back of the aforementioned ladies unless she makes further improvements....

pinky166
11-08-2010, 06:47 PM
Kiri I tend to think won't be a factor at nationals, she's still getting over her injuries and her scores on the JGP haven't been that great, maybe she can make the top 10. Vanessa and Yasmin have better odds, but Yasmin is too young to go to Worlds anyways, I think a finish between 4th and 10th is likely for both girls and that they will have a good shot at getting assigned to 4CC (Lam) and/or Junior Worlds.

As for Christina, I'm not so sure the judges will hold her down PCS wise just judging from the PCS she's been getting at junior competitions internationally. She also looks a lot less juniorish this season compared to last season which I think will also help her case. I think the key for her is if she can do the 3f-3t in both programs, if she does, it gives her an edge. If she doesn't hit the 3f-3t though, she will just be one of many girls in the mix for a spot on the podium.

Zawadzki seems to be having trouble in the LP this season, if she can get it together she has a good shot, but if she skates like she did in the FS at Skate Canada I don't think she really stands a chance.

As for Zhang I'm interested to see how she does at SA this weekend. I was impressed with her SP at NHK but the FS was a bit of a letdown. If she can start landing those jumps more consistently, now that she has fixed a lot of her technique, she might have a shot at the World Team, or at least the podium.

DickButtonFan
11-08-2010, 07:25 PM
I want my girls rachael and mirai to totally bring it in these next gp's. If they can they should be good for nats.

JerseySlore
11-08-2010, 08:17 PM
Danielle Kahle's last Nationals appearance was in 2008 (12th). She was 7th at Pacific Coast Sectionals 2 years ago and 6th last year. She's 21 years old now and had a very good Regionals competition last month, landing triples through flip in winning the SWP Regional title.

Ah, thank you! I'm all for the return of the chicklets! :cheer2:

chipso1
11-09-2010, 05:42 AM
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I just came across Kiri Baga's debut of "La Strada" (her senior FS version) from the MN State Championships in August.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQabP3-TL7A

Keep in mind that at that time, she had only been back on the ice for about 5 weeks after suffering a stress fracture all summer. I think she exudes more emotion and facial expressions in that performance than she did at the JGP Japan, though.

ETA: That user also has Kate Charbonneau's (winning) senior FS from State in August. :)

pinky166
11-09-2010, 04:20 PM
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I just came across Kiri Baga's debut of "La Strada" (her senior FS version) from the MN State Championships in August.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQabP3-TL7A

Keep in mind that at that time, she had only been back on the ice for about 5 weeks after suffering a stress fracture all summer. I think she exudes more emotion and facial expressions in that performance than she did at the JGP Japan, though.

ETA: That user also has Kate Charbonneau's (winning) senior FS from State in August. :)

Thanks! I agree Kiri presented better in this FS than the one she did in Japan, even though there were a lot of jump problems in this version, she seems to have worked most of them out since.

Nice to see Kate skate well, I quite like that program, she sort of reminds me of Alissa Czisny. I feel bad that she's had a really rough start to the season and hope she bounces back soon!