Jumps: Difficult Entries for GOE???

[viennese]

Lutz:
Back shoot-the-duck on an outside edge
Spread eagle (outside edge)

Nancy Kerrigan used to do both of these, sometimes in the short program.

Flip:
Forward outside edge spiral, though there's likely a pause or step between the spiral's end and the step into the flip.

[Firefly123]

Oh...I really like the back shoot-the-duck. Never thought of that! Thanks!! :D

[jjane45]

This is an awesome thread! :cheer2:

[LilJen]

Difficult jump entries I've seen and :eek: at:
Matt Savoie did a back inside 3 into a 3axel (impossible!). Jeremy Abbott regularly does a swing choctaw-3-3-edge change then step into 3axel (again, totally nuts). Savoie used to do a lot of hydroblades into jumps, back drags into jumps, both of which take some serious leg muscles and speed! A few seasons ago wasn't Mao doing bracket-bracket-3axel? Some skaters do an Ina Bauer into a lutz. I really admire someone who can up the ante like this. It's exponentially more difficult to do jumps this way. (and more interesting to watch!)

[smarts1]

^ I never understood that... I mean some of these entries (back three turn into triple axel) are definitely very very difficult, but is really something like a spread eagle or an ina bauer that difficult into something like a flip or a lutz? After all, right before the jump you'll get back on two feet with the balance you need to do it.

[Doubletoe]

^ I never understood that... I mean some of these entries (back three turn into triple axel) are definitely very very difficult, but is really something like a spread eagle or an ina bauer that difficult into something like a flip or a lutz? After all, right before the jump you'll get back on two feet with the balance you need to do it.

What do you mean, "right before the jump you'll get back on two feet with the balance you need to do it."? To do a RFO spread eagle into a lutz, you just lift the leading foot, reach back with it and pick for the takeoff. At no point do you get to bring your feet together first and re-balance over both feet. In spread eagle or Ina Bauer position, both feet are on the ice but wide apart, so that your weight is centered between your two feet, not balanced over one foot or the other. When you lift one of those feet off the ice, you need to shift all of your balance to the other foot and bend that knee deeply without changing edge, then take off from that foot. Not an easy transition, and even harder from an Ina Bauer.

[CantALoop]

This guy at the rink I used to skate at did a RBO hydrant spiral and would immediately step down into an axel. Of course he'd pop it into a beautiful waltz more often than not :shuffle: