Skating UP????

[Doubletoe]

I was wondering how long it would take for the topic to come back to this.:yikes: Definitely a good time for Pandora to go back into her box.

[coskater]

Oh pooh! I missed it!! :lol:

[aster]

IMO, if you removed the requirement for MITF and didn't replace them with figures, you'd have a bunch of kids seriously injuring themselves jumping so young that you'd make the pool of national contenders a lot smaller.

Yup -- the injury rate already shot up when they went from figures to field moves because a strong skater can pass through senior moves by 10 or 11 (or even 9), which never happened with figures, so by the time you were a pre-teen (which is the most dangerous time to be practicing jumps for hours and hours a day without a break), there was no longer anything to slow down your jumping. And that was before IJS added even more stress to growing bodies. I can't imagine what would happen if they got rid of moves completely.

[zaphyre14]

Everything in lskating is based on edges and turns. If you can't - or don't want to learn those skills then you really aren't learning to skate. You're just playing around with tricks, not skills.

[tangerine_dream]

I've skimmed through this thread. All I can really say is, if you can't pass intermediate MITF, I'll venture that your double jumps are probably not good enough to get ratified as such. All jumps stem from great basic skating. If you don't have that, you do not have good jumps.

Don't get me wrong, some skaters have better edges than others. But if you can do a double lutz then you can pass Intermediate MITF (even if you need to work on it a bit to get there...), otherwise you don't have a double lutz, you have one of those 1 1/4 little hop things that people think are doubles but really wouldn't even be ratified as a clean single. That is unfortunately very prevalent in both children and adults. How many times have I heard "I landed a double!!!!" only to have seen the jump beforehand myself and have thought "that was 3/4 of a jump and 1 1/4 of a spin on the ice". People sometimes don't have a clear grasp of what they are doing out there.

Bottom line, if you have ALL your doubles clean, then Int MITF should be a piece of cake. So, either your jumps aren't what you think they are, or you just don't "get" figure skating. Figure skating isn't all about jumps, it never will be, so if that's all you're in it for then might as well not bother competing because people with your outlook always finish last. I'm sure Plushenko is regretting basing his Olympic dreams on one jump, too.

I don't see why you bother with figure skating, just go back to roller if you liked it better. You're not going to change the sport. I hate to tell you but USFS doesn't care what a no-test adult skater thinks about their system.

I'm being blunt because you're 100% delusional and sometimes it helps more than sugar-coating. I don't mean to be offensive, but you really need to understand the sport because you're just wasting your time thinking you'll change anything. If you don't like the sport don't try to change it, leave it. Find something that actually suits you because clearly this isn't it.