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bek
05-06-2010, 11:29 PM
The AA in London will be interesting. I have a feeling alot more interesting than Beijing where there were only 2 or 3 real contenders. There will probably be multiple gymnasts from Russia, China, and the U.S with a real shot. It is just a shame only 2 per country will get to compete in it.

If Komova (knock on wood) cleans up her Amanar and gets her bars A score up to around 7.0 and does the upgrades on beam and floor that she can do. It may not be much of a competition at all if she hits. Unless someone like Grishina also improves on vault.

As I said before these two little Russian girls are showing Nastia like artistry on beam, combined with Shawn like acrobatic moves.

People have been pointed out that the basic bars routine that Alexandrov is having the Russian girls do is capable of adding things on it to get up to 7.3, without L Grips etc..

I personally adore Grishina, but I'm just saying some of the skills Komova is showing on every event right is just mind blowing. I don't think Shawn will ever be at that level on bars for example, And Vitoria is a better vaulter than Liukin.

chipso1
05-07-2010, 05:28 AM
If Komova (knock on wood) cleans up her Amanar and gets her bars A score up to around 7.0 and does the upgrades on beam and floor that she can do. It may not be much of a competition at all if she hits. Unless someone like Grishina also improves on vault.

If if if if if if if.

bek
05-07-2010, 05:37 AM
If if if if if if if.

Shawn getting back to 2008 shape after and an ACL tear AND puberty changes is a way bigger IF. Wieber may have something to say about it too because she seems to be making an effort to improve her bars as well.
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But with Komova most of the stuff is there. The Amanar is there and each time she competes it, it gets better. She's already done the connected Patterson on beam in competition. As I believe some of her harder tumbling in competition, I'm glad she had some watered down routines in Euros.

These things are there with Komova its a matter right now of pacing her. Which I do worry about. And not only does Komova have all of this stuff. But she has artistry and style. She actually does choregraphy on floor, choregraphy on beam, along with the difficult tricks.
Some of said she reminds people of Nastia (with some of her form issue) but also the lines. Although Komova can actually vault, and can do way harder tumbling and acrobatic tricks.

I truly love Grishina's gymanstics. She has beautful form/clean technique. She needs harder vault/floor elements but she's also two years away from being eligible, so I have a feeling they are just pacing her. She and Komova will upgrade bars. That's just a given. Alexandrov knows that is the key to winning.

oleada
05-07-2010, 06:25 AM
Am I the only cynical asshole who thinks it's all publicity? :saint: :shuffle:

BigB08822
05-07-2010, 06:27 AM
I'm a huge fan of Komova but I can't stand her beam choreography. It seems very stop and go to me but I hope that as she matures and grows into her routines she will incorporate more flow between the tricks and choreo.

Karpenko
05-07-2010, 10:30 AM
Am I the only cynical asshole who thinks it's all publicity? :saint: :shuffle:

She put off college to train, but I'm a bit cynical about how this will turn out.

It will be interesting. What made shawn such a great gymnast was how easily she could do the hardest skills being done on every single event, she didn't code-whore.

I think this comeback will turn Shawn into the opposite gymnast that she was, she'll probably have a more fluid sense of movement and more maturity and line, but she will code-whore to the max to get her difficulty. I can't see her ever doing a 2 1/2 Yurchenko or double double on floor again, but we'll see. The problem with Shawn making the team is her strong events are already covered, and bars is the biggest hole to fill, which is why Nastia IMO would have an easier time coming back.

vesperholly
05-07-2010, 11:53 AM
I actually think Shawn sometimes got unwarranted flack for her form. Her form was actually really good. Legs always stuck together, toes pointed, didn't cross her legs in her twists. She really only suffered from her body type. People didn't like her lack of extension, especially compared to Nastia. However, she couldn't help that. No amount of training would ever give Shawn long arms and legs nor would any training allow her legs to look more locked out, she had knees that just didn't work like that. None of that was her fault and I didn't think it was fair to hold it against her. She worked her routines around what worked for her.

I agree as well. She had the misfortune to compete at the same time as one of the most excessively limbed gymnasts in US history, Liukin.

Johnson's personality was always appealing to me, despite the stereotypical squeaky voice I thought she seemed smart and dedicated. Her relationship with her coach was particularly heart-warming. I am not the biggest fan of her style of gymnastics, but it's more of a personal preference. The difficulty that she mananged to throw was extremely impressive. I hope the comeback goes well for her.

oleada
05-07-2010, 03:39 PM
I think this comeback will turn Shawn into the opposite gymnast that she was, she'll probably have a more fluid sense of movement and more maturity and line, but she will code-whore to the max to get her difficulty. I can't see her ever doing a 2 1/2 Yurchenko or double double on floor again, but we'll see. The problem with Shawn making the team is her strong events are already covered, and bars is the biggest hole to fill, which is why Nastia IMO would have an easier time coming back.

Me either. The Amanar was barely rotated when she was small. I think the problem with Shawn is that while she had good form, she didn't necessarily have good technique and a lot of her skills were reliant on her being small. Now she's not, compound that with a major knee injury and I'm not sure how many of her difficult skills skills she'll get back. She'll be hurt more by this code, I think, because it's stricter on things like not being able to do proper leaps.

judgejudy27
05-07-2010, 04:36 PM
Karpenko's points are valid and interesting. It is amazing these past greats are willing to put themselves on the line in these comebacks when they arent even a gaurantee to make their own teams anymore. Miller and Dawes in 2000, and Zmeskal in 1998 heading to 2000 (before injuries) are examples of this too.

briancoogaert
05-08-2010, 06:51 PM
That is a very good news ! :cheer:

Vash01
05-09-2010, 06:10 AM
Good luck to her. She will be only 20 in 2012, so she should still be a contender.

judgejudy27
05-10-2010, 03:20 AM
Does anyone else think Johnson has any shot of winning the AA in London or am I alone in that?

BigB08822
05-10-2010, 03:49 AM
Does anyone else think Johnson has any shot of winning the AA in London or am I alone in that?

Anything is possible at this point as we have no idea how her body will hold up, what skills she will regain, etc. There is nothing but potential for the moment. However, at her age (awful to say but this is gymnastics) and with a major injury I just don't see her as the same kind of AA threat that she once was. She may still be one of those with a shot but I don't know if she will be the favorite. Who knows, if she can learn a new skill or two on bars and keep her floor and beam SV's up, then she may not even need an Amanar. That is a lot of "ifs" though. I just don't see it working that way but I think she will make the team if she wants and her body holds up, after that...we shall see!

LKR
05-10-2010, 03:57 AM
Does anyone else think Johnson has any shot of winning the AA in London or am I alone in that?

If she was at her form from 2008 she would be in the mix. Her routines from Beijing would give her a D-score of 24.8 (Bross and Mustafina currently have 24.4), and not to mention Johnson has experience and a knack for competing.

However, I honestly don't think there is a snowball's chance in hell of Shawn winning AA gold in London (and I'm a big Shawn fan). Shawn relied a lot on big skills (Amanar, Double-Double on floor, Double-Double off bars, Full-in off beam, et al) that I think will be extremely difficult to get back, especially considering how much her body has ballooned since she stopped competing. She is certainly not getting the Amanar back when she barely could rotate it in her prime, and I'm dubious about her getting back all of the other skills I mentioned as well. The current code has more emphasis on dance on beam and floor which won't help Shawn either, and to make matters worse her competition, both domestically and internationally, should be very strong. The all-around field in London could be one of the deepest in history, and just making it to the final (hell just making the U.S. team) will be a challenge. Bross, Ross, Sloan, and Weiber are all very formidable all-arounders and it will be a battle for all just to qualify to AA finals.


Stranger things have happened, but I don't think she can pull off an AA win in 2012, and in general I don't have very high hopes for this comeback. I mean, she said that she is coming off of a knee injury and has been in the gym for four days, and all of a sudden she wants to make a comeback. She hasn't even started training big skills or anything close to that yet so I'll believe her comeback when she actually shows up to a competition in a leotard. I do wish her all the best though.

judgejudy27
05-10-2010, 05:50 PM
Thanks for your opinions. Maybe I should get my hopes up too high for her comeback. I hope she is happy and if the comeback goes until 2010 she atleast makes the U.S Olympic team in some form, even if she only gets to do 1 or 2 events.