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Firefly123
05-15-2010, 03:58 PM
Oh good find Kay!!!
Yes, I see it at 2:40. The challenge is really to keep up the speed. I think the only way to do this is to keep it close to the axis. Probably the best way would be to pull up the inverted tuck sit up into the catch camel without letting go of the skate (if you are flexible enough.) ;) I am not very flexible so this would really be pushing it for me, but when my foot heels I am going to try. At the very least, keep the free leg close (and "curled") around the spinning leg up until you get back into the camel position and then keep it "curled" (but not caught with the hand on the blade) while in the camel (like I did on the video). Of course, if you are flexible enough it would be much, much better and look a ton cooler to hold that blade all the way up from the inverted tuck. :)
I also like that sit spin with the jump sit that she does. I think I read in the new update that this is definitely now a feature (clear jump within a sit spin.) Think I may try to use it now that RIF sit is gone and you cannot repeat your features.
kayskate
05-16-2010, 01:07 AM
When I learned camel-sit-camel my coach taught me basically how it is shown in this Rugh vid. He said the best you can really do is maintain speed b/c you are transitioning from a tight position (sit) to an open one (camel). I never learned the corkscrew. Since I am breaking in new skates right now, I have to wait a while before working on these spins again.
Yes, the sit-jump-sit is a cool element. It is not especially hard, but req's strong quads. i have seen multiple jumps w/in one sit. I have also seen this done as a back sit variant.
When I was learning the flying sit, I stumbled upon a version in the Lussi spin vid that intrigued me. The skater does a forward camel then jumps the transition to a forward sit. it looks like a flying sit w/in the camel-sit transition. It is also not hard to do esp if you already have a camel-sit combo and something resembling a flying sit. My flying sit was never high, but this combo is much easier, IMO. When you get back on the ice, give it a shot. You will enjoy doing this skill. Keep your free leg very straight and high in the transition and pass in the widest possible arc. This will give you the most speed, best position and highest lift. I warmed up for it by standing in the doorway to the players box, lifting my body up by my arms and assuming the aerial flying sit position. Do this w a really fast lift of the tucking leg. The faster the better. This skill is more strength than flexibility.
If you can, get your hands on the Lussi spin vids. Lots of good stuff that you can do yourself w your existing skill set.
have fun!
Kay
Firefly123
05-16-2010, 07:49 AM
Speaking of really cool flying spins I will never be skilled enough to do ......I want this!! (at 3:48) Philippe Candeloro :swoon:
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Flying sit (tuck) entry into flying camel. (Kind of a flying change sit but done so high and so well that he is able to catch it early enough to make a camel out of it instead of having to drop down into a sit like a normal human.) :eek:
kayskate
05-16-2010, 02:32 PM
that spin is magnificent!
I saw a program by Kulik ( at least I think it was him) where he did what looked like it was going to be a flying sit. He kicked out in the air and landed in a forward camel. if I find the vid, I'll post or maybe someone else knows the link. It was incredible. I've never seen it again.
Kay
Firefly123
05-16-2010, 04:52 PM
Flying. :eek: Forward. :eek: Camel. :eek: I have only dreamed of such a thing!!! :swoon: It's like the skating version of a yeti or leprechaun. I've heard of it, but I don't think too many people have ever acutally seen one. Ditto with a Flying Layback (it's in the ISJ spin code, so theoretically, it exists.) Now, if they mean just doing a flying upright onto the left foot and then laying back the spin. No big deal :yawn:......But if they are talking about landing in a layback position (and I believe they are since most spins are designated by the landing position) then.......:yikes:
Warning: Go hunting these creatures at your own peril. They could be horribly dangerous. (Especially the flying layback.) ;)
kayskate
05-16-2010, 10:35 PM
Here is a flying entrance into a layback. Itis more of jump into a back spin then transition to layback.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KULOpZw_GE8&feature=related
Here's my fav male skater, Ilia Klimkin doing his camel-bcamel-jump-fcamel ~.40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmVod-LMkxg
IMO, this is the hardest of the flying spins, at least the ones I have been taught.
Here's Kulik's spin. Actually it is a death drop variation, not a flying sit. However, in this one he lands in a forward sit. I have also seen him land this in a fcamel but cannot find the link. ~.25 He also does a great cantilever and arabian cartwheel in this program.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WuZCIBR5jI&feature=related
Kay
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