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robin83
04-29-2010, 06:04 PM
Today I read Evan Lysacek's remarks that Johnny Weir, as not being "best of the best" did not deserve to tour with Stars on Ice. ???? Obviously SOI thinks Johnny is expendable - (most perplexing considering the mediocre - in elite skating terms - talent padding up most of the tour stops.) There seems to be no question that Evan and Johnny are the current top two US skaters. Later I read that Johnny completed the unsavory exchange by publicly calling Evan a rude and insulting name.

Now I read that Evan is flying around the country on free flexjet flights, which are transferring him between his, I'm sure, very lucrative DWTS and SOI gigs. We're probably talking in excess of 50K for each coast to coast trip.

The inequities and favoritism that I see in the figure skating world worry me. Most of it seems to be corporate driven (Smuckers making decisions that smack of discrimination in deciding who gets to skate in public and take advantage of the one existing US tour -- Flexjet deciding to favor one athlete with free coast to coast private jet flights).

In my opinion the USFSA needs to take control, set some standards and protect its athletes. What are the rules that should govern proper competitor conduct - especially public contacts with the media ? What commercial and sponsorship activities are appropriate for competitors? What sort of role should outside corporations have in the sport?

Corporations - Smuckers, for example, seems to be more influential than the USFSA - including control of communications to the mass audience. I'm thinking specifically of Scott Hamilton and his SOI alumni sidekicks Bezic and Wilson controlling the Olympic figure skating broadcasts.

I'm an outsider looking in. I have no personal knowledge of any of the participants and do not skate myself though I am a fan. But perhaps my viewpoint is valuable in providing feedback on how these events look to an outsider.

To me, the starting point and biggest problem is the invalidation of Johnny Weir's right to skate in a public tour - first because he was the only Olympian SOI left off the SOI cast list, and second Evan's public repudiation of his right to skate with SOI. SOI is the only current US tour and is the USFSA's "promotional" partner, marketing the USFSA and US skating during the tour. It has responsibilities that go beyond a private enterprise to treat the US skating team fairly and to represent the sport appropriately.

SOI should throw in the towel, and despite the bad blood that has built up over the last few months, invite Johnny to skate with the tour. Also, Evan and Johnny should publicly apologize to each other. These activities should be brokered by the USFSA, which has to retake control of its sport, publicly and privately.

LadyNit
04-29-2010, 06:15 PM
PML. USFSA as dictatorship! um...NON!

Wyliefan
04-29-2010, 06:17 PM
There's a right to skate in public tours? In which section of the U.S. Constitution does it appear?

attyfan
04-29-2010, 06:18 PM
I don't see why Flexjet's decision to fly Evan between SOI and DWTS should warrant USFS involvement. Evan and Johnny have been sniping at each other for years; USFS is doing well in resisting the temptation to generate a fortune for itself by framing one for whacking the other.

falling_dance
04-29-2010, 06:20 PM
There's a right to skate in public tours? In which section of the U.S. Constitution does it appear?

In the First Amendment, of course!

ETA: Ouch, that is weak. :o

Nan
04-29-2010, 06:24 PM
Neither skater is skating competitively right now; USFS has nothing to do with it. And "proper competitor conduct"? What next, proper fan conduct??

BlueRidge
04-29-2010, 06:25 PM
Neither skater is skating competitively right now; USFS has nothing to do with it. And "proper competitor conduct"? What next, proper fan conduct??

Indeed, proper fan conduct! You are out of line! I'm calling the USFS on you! :P

I want my flexjet!

GarrAarghHrumph
04-29-2010, 06:27 PM
SOI is a private company. As such, they have the right to hire talent as they see fit. Unless they have some sort of contractual obligation with USFS that requires them to take on all US Olys team members... which they do not... They are just as welcome to hire Stephen Cousins as they are to hire Johnny Weir. Conversely, the USFS has no say in who SOI can and cannot hire.

The USFS also cannot control what Johnny and Evan say in public. They can advise them and train them - and they do - but they can't control them.

And IMO, it's interesting that the type of sniping and etc. that's commonplace in other sports, in skating is considered outrageous. Compared to what I've heard men in other sports say about competitors, Evan and Johnny's sniping is quite mild.

BlueRidge
04-29-2010, 06:27 PM
There seems to be no question that Evan and Johnny are the current top two US skaters. ...

And fcuck you Jeremy Abbott! National champion, my ass! No flexjet for you! Bwah!

I'm taking my Smuckers Blackberry Jam and go home if the USFS doesn't do something about this!!!

Nan
04-29-2010, 06:28 PM
I want my flexjet!

You in the front row....pipe down!! ;)

BlueRidge
04-29-2010, 06:29 PM
You in the front row....pipe down!! ;)

I'M LOUD.

Stop ruining my enjoyment of figure skating, you Nan you! Or I'll report you to the USFS! :P

GarrAarghHrumph
04-29-2010, 06:30 PM
Stop ruining my enjoyment of figure skating, you Nan you! Or I'll report you to the USFS! :P

Who will come to your house in Arizona and make you show your citizenship papers. Oh, wait... wrong forum. ;)

Nan
04-29-2010, 06:31 PM
Stop ruining my enjoyment of figure skating, you Nan you! Or I'll report you to the USFS! :P

:wuzrobbed

BlueRidge
04-29-2010, 06:31 PM
Who will come to your house in Arizona and make you show your citizenship papers. Oh, wait... wrong forum. ;)

No, they will make her pee! When she can't produce! :eek::eek:

Nan
04-29-2010, 06:33 PM
I don't pee, I'm a lady, I am! :drama: