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Southpaw
04-29-2010, 06:33 PM
If Evan ever lands that FlexJet of his in Teterboro Airport I'm going to hit him up for a private stewardess job.

Rob
04-29-2010, 06:33 PM
You in the front row....pipe down!! ;)

Bah, if you shut her up, she'll just start munching on a tofurkeyburger.

Jaana
04-29-2010, 06:34 PM
There seems to be no question that Evan and Johnny are the current top two US skaters.

Weir a top US skater :lol::lol::lol:? At least Abbott is the current US champion...

Debbie S
04-29-2010, 06:35 PM
You seem to not understand what corporations do or the laws and conventional wisdom governing business. You also don't understand what the USFSA's role is, which is not to be some all-powerful wizard controlling every aspect of skating and skater's lives - they are an organization of volunteers whose mission is to advance the sport. Go to Governing Council this week and most of the bigwigs will tell you they don't give a hoot who was asked to be on SOI or got which endorsement deals as long as the general public pays more attention to figure skating.

The USFSA controls rules of competition and testing, skaters access to and participation in int'l comps, skater development, awareness of the sport and skaters, etc. They do not control private sponsorships (although I believe eligible skaters are required to file a form if they are paid to skate in a tour, but that is just for admin purposes and to ensure the activity is sanctioned by USFSA) or tours. Second, yes, SOI and the USFSA have a cross-promotional partnership, but that does not give the USFSA control over who gets invited to the tour nor does it obligate SOI to do anything, unless it's written in the contract. I suppose the USFSA could have made specific demands on SOI like that, but the negotiations would have stopped right there - this is business, not kindergarten. "Fairness" does not sell tickets or pay skater salaries.

Evan's Flexjet sponsorship deal is the decision of Flexjet (is that the co name?), a private corporation. Private corporations get to hire/sign contracts with whoever they want. The deal was brokered for Evan by Evan's agent. It has nothing to do with favoritism or Evan vs Johnny or the USFSA. The reason why Evan is getting endorsement deals is b/c he won the OGM. Any OGM is going have advertisers lining up to be able to use the athlete's name to sell products, b/c the athlete is more visible than, say, the 6th place finisher. Duh.

Sure, SOI has power and leverage - they operate a skating tour, they get to hire who they want. Skating in a tour (or any job, really) is a privilege, not a right.

The USFSA provides media training to skaters insofar as it benefits the USFSA. They want skaters to answer questions and say witty things in news conferences and interviews to get more people writing and reading about skating. But they have no control over what skaters say. Obviously, skaters realize the nature of the sport (subjective judging) and know that if they make inflammatory statements, they might not be TPTB's favorite. But the fact that John Baldwin (and Johnny) have managed to be a staple of Nats medal podiums and World teams for quite a few years would indicate that skating perfoemance still wins out. But if the skater makes an @$$ of himself publicly too many times, they may not get the privilege of skating in a national tour, b/c the private organization running the tour won't want to hire @$$es. Imagine that. :rolleyes:

BlueRidge
04-29-2010, 06:36 PM
Bah, if you shut her up, she'll just start munching on a tofurkeyburger.

A really BIG cheese tofurkeyburger in fact!

I loved doing that back when Irina was skating! Ah those were the days!

Rob
04-29-2010, 06:37 PM
A really BIG cheese tofurkeyburger in fact!

I loved doing that back when Irina was skating! Ah those were the days!


And Irina loved it too! Wheee!

Nan
04-29-2010, 06:39 PM
A really BIG cheese tofurkeyburger in fact!

Does that smell like it sounds? I might be happy to let you be LOUD! :lol:

GarrAarghHrumph
04-29-2010, 06:41 PM
But if the skater makes an @$$ of himself publicly too many times, they may not get the privilege of skating in a national tour, b/c the private organization running the tour won't want to hire @$$es. Imagine that. :rolleyes

Especially a company like SOI, who have said (if I am recalling correctly) that they hire, in part, based on fit to their organization. They tour together, spend hours and hours per day together in close quarters, and work as a team. One of their priorities is having skaters who will fit within the existing group. If some skater has a rep for being difficult to work with or extremely high maintenance, then they probably won't get hired.

BlueRidge
04-29-2010, 06:41 PM
I don't pee, I'm a lady, I am! :drama:

tinkle?

BlueRidge
04-29-2010, 06:42 PM
Does that smell like it sounds? I might be happy to let you be LOUD! :lol:

If I were figureskates I might say that I'd be loud after I eat it, but um like you I'm a lady so I don't make jokes like that... :saint:

Nan
04-29-2010, 06:46 PM
tinkle?

Of course!


...but um like you I'm a lady so I don't make jokes like that... :saint:

Do you tinkle, too??

BlueRidge
04-29-2010, 06:48 PM
Of course!



Do you tinkle, too??

You are such a Nan! :drama:

Nan
04-29-2010, 06:49 PM
You are such a Nan! :drama:

(sigh)

What else would I be?

Excuse me please, I have to go make water........

genevieve
04-29-2010, 06:49 PM
this is the most awesomely stupid thread in quite a while

BlueRidge
04-29-2010, 06:52 PM
oh gawd the dictators have come and tossed us in the trash!

I'm outta here. On my flexjet.