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PDilemma
04-27-2010, 12:46 PM
Family Ties is the better example than some of the others. It was intended that the show would focus on the parents. Within half a season, many episodes focused on the character of Alex instead.

Shows like Andy Griffith did have iconic characters like Knotts' Barney, but the show still focused on the character of Andy.

rfisher
04-27-2010, 02:37 PM
Niles on Frazier.

soxxy
04-27-2010, 02:41 PM
If you look at Dynasty and Dallas neither started as the Alexis and J.R. shows.

Good ones, I was only thinking comedy. In that case, Heather Locklear on the old Melrose Place. Was she even on the first season? (For that matter, was Joan Collins the first season of Dynasty?)

GarrAarghHrumph
04-27-2010, 02:46 PM
Spike on Buffy. He was supposed to die in Season 2 when the church crashed in on him and Drusilla, but Joss just couldn't bear to see him die.

I think that Angel was also a character who was only supposed to be on for a limited number of episodes, but was so popular that his run got extended. And extended. And then he got his own series.

But I don't think that either David Boreanz or James Marsters upstaged the Buffy character. It's more that they added something to the show, rather than detracting from the main character.

Veronika
04-27-2010, 02:55 PM
For better or worse: Urkel!

Wikipedia has quite a list of these, they call them breakout characters: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakout_character

Spike was a very controversial character, fan-wise. Most people either loved him or hated him. I didn't mind him, but I didn't understand the hype. My husband loves him though.

Seerek
04-27-2010, 03:25 PM
Of these examples - which ones actually caused jealousy and/or rift between the cast members due to this shift in attention/popularity?

Kukucachoo
04-27-2010, 03:26 PM
Can we count Jennifer Aniston's hair during the first two seasons of Friends? I have not seen a salon rush like that since Farrah and our Dorothy in the 70's and Princess Diana in the 80's.

allezfred
04-27-2010, 03:45 PM
Betty in Ugly Betty by Wilhelmina Slater, Marc & Amanda, Justin & Hilda, etc. :P

BigB08822
04-27-2010, 03:48 PM
Betty in Ugly Betty by Wilhelmina Slater, Marc & Amanda, Justin & Hilda, etc. :P

No way! I loved those characters but the show was always focused on Betty. Amanda was my favorite, though! :lol: I wish she could get her own spin off.

I definitely agree about Karen on Will and Grace. She ended up getting so much screen time and all the good lines.

allezfred
04-27-2010, 03:56 PM
No way! I loved those characters but the show was always focused on Betty.

Maybe that's why it's being cancelled. Betty was always such a boring, goodie twoshoes. :yawn:

Anyway, I still maintain that while she may have been the focus of the show she was constantly being upstaged by just about everybody else on the cast. :P

flutzilla1
04-27-2010, 03:58 PM
Jason Batemen on Silver Spoons was hotter than Ricky Schroeder. Of course, I was like 7 or 8 at the time and they were some serious studs. consuming my world.

I was about 11 when the show started and I always thought Jason Bateman was so much cuter than Ricky "the Ricker" Shroeder. I was also an avid viewer of Jason's short lived 'It's Your Move' sitcom post Silver Spoons. :)

BigB08822
04-27-2010, 04:26 PM
Maybe that's why it's being cancelled. Betty was always such a boring, goodie twoshoes. :yawn:


Possibly but I still think the show was doomed when they began moving it around and eventually put it on Friday nights. No show EVER survives Friday nights on the major networks. I think they moved it way too quickly, if they had left it where it was it could have seen a rise in ratings because this season was the very best of all. Oh well, I will miss this show so much.

reckless
04-27-2010, 04:34 PM
Of these examples - which ones actually caused jealousy and/or rift between the cast members due to this shift in attention/popularity?
Both the shows mentioned with Cybill Shepherd. She particularly hated being upstaged by Bruce Willis in Moonlighting and when it happened again on Cybill, there was a lot of acrimony between her and Baranski.

My apologies if it was mentioned, but the most obvious current examples of character who has overshadowed the originally intended leads are Barney on How I Met Your Mother and Sheldon on Big Bang Theory. (Depending on what happens with the direction that Glee takes next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Kurt begin to overshadow Cory and Rachel, plus there is Sue.)

In dramas, I would toss out as breakout characters Eric on TrueBlood and Ben and Desmond on Lost, but I don't think they upstage the main cast, since the shows are ensembles to begin with.

Wyliefan
04-27-2010, 04:36 PM
For better or worse: Urkel!

Wikipedia has quite a list of these, they call them breakout characters: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakout_character


Interesting lists. I had no idea Opus started out in such a small way in the Bloom County strip! :)

Gypsy
04-27-2010, 05:01 PM
Going back a ways, Danny Bonaduce upstaged David Cassidy on the Partridge Family quite often.