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kwanfan1818
11-11-2012, 10:20 AM
I don't see a scenario in which six skaters could pass her, but I might be missing something: the logic is that since she has 26 points and a win, and the first tie break is best result in one competition, to go ahead of her, another skater would have to:

1. Have > 26 points
2. Have 26 points, one victory, and have a higher combined score (second tiebreak)

There are three skaters who could do this individually at TEB, but they can't all do it at the same time, because the two with 13 points (Lipnitskaia and Gao) need to come in first; another silver, and they lose the first tiebreak, since Korpi has a win and they don't. So even were Wagner to come in third (15+11) and beat Korpi on combined points (the second tie-break) and either Gao or Lipnitskaia wins (13+15), the other one loses the first tie-break, and at most, two can go ahead of Korpi. (A win for anyone else, for example, Tuktamysheva with 9, would be less than Korpi's 26.)

The same is true at NHK, if Osmond is not chosen as a replacement, because Suzuki and Zawadzki both need to win to pass Korpi. ( Zawadzki would also have to beat Korpi with a higher combined total.) If Osmond is chosen, then a Zawadzki (11+15)/Asada or Osmond (15+13)/Asada or Osmond (15+11) podium with both Zawadzki and the bronze medallist scoring a higher combined total than Korpi could pass Korpi.

Unless I've missed a scenario where three skaters at TEB could pass her, there should be a maximum of five who can, in the worst case scenario.

Corrections most definitely welcome.

Loves_Shizuka
11-11-2012, 10:39 AM
I.e It's likely Kiira makes the GPF. Hope so!

I know I could look it up, but what happened with Laura never reaching a GPF?

MissIzzy
11-11-2012, 01:02 PM
As I've always understood it, gold and bronze mathematically locks a skater.

SamuraiK
11-11-2012, 02:36 PM
She's IN. With only 2 events left and 3 medal winners already out (Sotnikova and Gold blew their 2nd event and Osmond doesnt even have one), I dont see any mathematic result combo where she would get passed.

kwanfan1818
11-11-2012, 06:26 PM
I.e It's likely Kiira makes the GPF.
No, it's a done deal, because of the first tie-break rule, which gives the spot to the skater with the highest placement:


As I've always understood it, gold and bronze mathematically locks a skater.
Yes, because there are six spaces and only five other skaters maximum who could beat it: five other, different skaters winning the other five events and getting a silver in the second event (28 vs. 26 points) or getting a bronze in the second* event (tied in points), but having the highest combined score. A skater without a win -- highest= two silvers -- can't beat a skater with a win and at least a bronze. A win + 4th or lower/no second event can be beaten.

*Not necessarily chronological

IDC a.k.a. Ritti
11-22-2012, 03:02 AM
A couple of hours ago, Susanna Rahkamo was elected Vice President of the National Olympic Committee:
http://yle.fi/urheilu/varapuheenjohtajaksi_valittu_rahkamo_jos_saamme_ne nat_samaan_suuntaan_alkaa_syntya/6386270

kwanfan1818
11-22-2012, 05:27 AM
Great news!

Loves_Shizuka
11-22-2012, 07:16 AM
^In honour of said wonderful lady, one of my favourite OD's of all time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ieH0uk-cks

pani
11-22-2012, 12:02 PM
A couple of hours ago, Susanna Rahkamo was elected Vice President of the National Olympic Committee:
http://yle.fi/urheilu/varapuheenjohtajaksi_valittu_rahkamo_jos_saamme_ne nat_samaan_suuntaan_alkaa_syntya/6386270

Great new! Congrats to Susanna :cheer:


^In honour of said wonderful lady, one of my favourite OD's of all time:
O, Finnstep :respec: You will see it a lot of times in next season ;)

sammyf
12-25-2012, 06:31 AM
Nice to see some new young ice dance teams skating here http://kristalice.lv/Results/Volvo20th/CAT045EN.HTM

Sylvia
01-09-2013, 03:51 PM
A thread has already been posted (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?86436-Korpi-out-of-Europeans) in the 2013 Europeans forum in Kiss and Cry but here's a Finnish news article that confirms that Kiira Korpi has withdrawn from Euros due to injury :( ("inflammation of the Achilles tendon") and will be replaced by Alisa Mikonsaari: http://yle.fi/urheilu/kiira_korpi_ei_puolusta_em-hopeaansa_-_en_pysty_viela_luistelemaan/6443474
Korpi said she is recovering and her goal is to be ready for Worlds.

Loves_Shizuka
01-09-2013, 04:00 PM
I hadn't checked the Euros forum so now I just find out.

Very. Big. Sigh.

SamuraiK
01-09-2013, 04:04 PM
Sad news, will Turkkila and Mikonsaari be able to keep 2 spots for 2014? Dont think so :(

Jeschke
01-09-2013, 04:12 PM
Sad news, will Turkkila and Mikonsaari be able to keep 2 spots for 2014? Dont think so :(

don't think so either. this will increase the chances of all those girls fighting for the 2nd spot (or holding them) like Weinzierl for Germany, the French Girls, Lafuente & Co.

sad for korpi, hope she will recover for worlds and show what she's capable of.

skatak
01-09-2013, 07:36 PM
I thought the title was for her this year...