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kwanfan1818
03-18-2012, 07:24 PM
I meant Finnish synchro teams.

pinky166
03-18-2012, 11:58 PM
Hecken has all the triples. AFAIK she never did a 3flip in competition yet but she did all the others and all triples are consistent in practice (which is still a way from being consistent in competitions).

Anyway - sad for Finland. After Laura Kiira was really needed. :( I prefer Laura's skating by fifty miles but I am still sad for Kiira. It always is if a skater cannot compete because of injury and Kiira had her fair share of health problems already. :(

Last year she did 3t, 3s, and one 3f in her Worlds FS where she placed 11th, she tried also for 3lo but it was <<. The year before she did 3t, 3s, and did not try 3f or 3lo, just one 3lz which she fell on and was marked <. She has never consistently had anything more than 3t and 3s but managed to place twice 12th in the Worlds, and her spins, etc are not as strong as Juulia.

ioana
03-19-2012, 03:24 AM
She has never consistently had anything more than 3t and 3s but managed to place twice 12th in the Worlds, and her spins, etc are not as strong as Juulia.

Hecken's spins might not be a strong point, but she definitely has tons more power and speed to her skating. Turkkila is slow for a skater at her level -and visibly so, so her PCS aren't going to be all the great, even if her posture and ballet training make her a pleasant skater to watch.

pinky166
03-19-2012, 03:25 AM
Hecken's spins might not be a strong point, but she definitely has tons more power and speed to her skating. Turkkila is slow for a skater at her level -and visibly so, so her PCS aren't going to be all the great, even if her posture and ballet training make her a pleasant skater to watch.

Yeah, maybe. But Juulia might get extra PCS points for looking like Barbie on ice :lol:. I hope she kicks butt at Worlds to prove all the naysayers wrong.

Kelvster
03-19-2012, 03:10 PM
i'm posting too coz i like champagne ...

and oh ... alisa mikonsaari gets her chance to skate on the world stage. wonder what her chances are of making it to the short programme/final. watched her finlandia trophy performance. rather determined lady she seems to be ... (triple toe-triple toe, triple lutz in short programme ... underrotated but not bad attempts). A little scratchy but her presentation was again not bad (coached by Urmanov!) ... really too bad that Finland will be down to one spot nxt year ... (so whoever goes to Worlds will have big pressure of making it in the top ten to earn 2 spots for Sochi ...)

ioana
03-19-2012, 04:18 PM
Yeah, maybe. But Juulia might get extra PCS points for looking like Barbie on ice :lol:. I hope she kicks butt at Worlds to prove all the naysayers wrong.

We're just pointing out anything short of a best-ever performance from her end and meltdowns from other contenders wouldn't be good enough for Juulia to finish in the top 10. Odds of that happening are firmly under 5%. Obviously, probability can't be negative so there is *some* chance Turkkila will be in the top 10. If saying that's not a very good chance makes us naysayers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIV4poUZAQo :P

Iceman
03-19-2012, 06:20 PM
THe current field is on the weak side, so I guess anything is possible.

Hanna
03-19-2012, 07:54 PM
really too bad that Finland will be down to one spot nxt year ... (so whoever goes to Worlds will have big pressure of making it in the top ten to earn 2 spots for Sochi ...)
Yeah but if it's either Kiira or Laura, then the chances of making the top10 could be quite good (of course it'll depend on how they look next season).

I can't believe that Juulia has just managed to be the subject of two pages of posts in this thread (with a bit of Hecken thrown into the mix). :P I guess anything goes since we're lacking other news.

kwanfan1818
03-19-2012, 08:13 PM
I'm confused about the need for Turkila to make it to the top 10: did I miss where Finland is only sending one lady, or is it because no expects the second Finnish lady to qualify for the FS?

Hanna
03-19-2012, 08:15 PM
I'm confused about the need for Turkila to make it to the top 10: did I miss where Finland is only sending one lady, or is it because no expects the second Finnish lady to qualify for the FS?
I was wondering the same thing but then thought "whatever". :lol:

Top12 or top13 will be almost as tough though.

kwanfan1818
03-19-2012, 08:27 PM
The odds are a lot better, though, with four-five skaters likely vying for 10th-12th vs. four-five skaters vying for 10th.

That assumes that the second Finnish lady makes it out of the prelims -- Turkila's 20th place in Moscow means one direct and one lady in the prelims -- and then top 24 in the SP.

Hanna
03-19-2012, 09:33 PM
Wait, according to the ISU entry list both Finnish entries are direct?

Sorry, I realize this should be in the Worlds forum. :o

kwanfan1818
03-19-2012, 09:57 PM
You're right: the top 18 from Moscow earned one direct entry each for their country, but because Canada and Sweden lost their second spots, there are only 16 direct entries for Nice from the top 18 from Moscow, and the 17th and 18th direct entries were assigned to Belgium (for Vannut's 19th place) and Finland (for Turkila's 20th place).

That means that Mikonsaari skips the prelim round.

ioana
03-19-2012, 10:57 PM
You're right: the top 18 from Moscow earned one direct entry each for their country, but because Canada and Sweden lost their second spots, there are only 16 direct entries for Nice from the top 18 from Moscow, and the 17th and 18th direct entries were assigned to Belgium (for Vannut's 19th place) and Finland (for Turkila's 20th place).

That means that Mikonsaari skips the prelim round.

This is excellent news because it also means Isabelle Pieman has a decent chance of qualifying with a clean Short :cheer2:. Erm, Finnish news thread, so best of luck to Alisa for the short, as well!

Finnice
03-20-2012, 07:33 AM
Both the Finnish entries are direct.
Mikonsaari has shiwn a great promise some years ago, and she impressed with her 3t-3t ans 3lz. And Kelvster, you are right, she has a lot of determination and lots of speed. It is very interesting to see how she uses this possibility to break to the senior World level.