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Beefcake
02-22-2012, 06:13 PM
^isn't there a difference to skate in a international competition or to skate in front of members of a dictator government in order to celebrate and amuse them?
Yes. Huge difference.

Competing or performing in a country with naughty rulers/ruling class = fine by me. Strong goodwill/humanitarian/fair play arguments can always be made for this. (I'm still bitter about our boycott of the Moscow Olympics.)

Competing or performing a made-for-pimping event that is blatantly in praise of, for the amusement of, and in worship of, this naughty ruler/ruling class = piss poor judgment at the least.

ioana
02-22-2012, 06:24 PM
Competing or performing a made-for-pimping event that is blatantly in praise of, for the amusement of, and in worship of, this naughty ruler/ruling class = piss poor judgment at the least.

Ah, but Laura's brilliant agent disagrees.


Alaja also does not feel that his or Lepistö’s political judgement would be faulty in any way.

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Finnish+ex-European+Champion+takes+part+in+North+Korean+figur e+skating+event/1329103473183

I cannot believe she's actually paying this dude in order to represent her. If I were her, I'd :lynch: him right away. Not only did he not do enough research on this to let her know about what happened to Tomas Verner last year, he now comes up with gems like these.

Nekatiivi
02-22-2012, 06:27 PM
I have been thinking Laura's skate in North Korea quite a lot and came to the conculusion that it is ok for me.

Reason for that is that I don't see "scoulding" un-democratic "bad" countries being very effective. Almost always it makes things worse. Change must come from within the society and there is not much other countries can do.

Only North Korea can change North Korea. Go there. Skate there. Maybe a friendly relationships to outside world can make them to open up a bit, because it seems that nothing else has not.

Vagabond
02-22-2012, 06:36 PM
Publisher's webpage for Erkki Alaja (http://www.teos.fi/fi/kirjailijat/index.php?sub=2&id=124)

Google Translation:


Alaja Erkki (b. 1952) will serve as your advertising agency led by a nut....

:shuffle:

ioana
02-22-2012, 06:38 PM
Publisher's webpage for Erkki Alaja (http://www.teos.fi/fi/kirjailijat/index.php?sub=2&id=124)

Google Translation: Alaja Erkki (b. 1952) will serve as your advertising agency led by a nut....

:rofl: Truth in advertising at last.

allezfred
02-22-2012, 07:01 PM
Yes. Huge difference.

Competing or performing in a country with naughty rulers/ruling class = fine by me. Strong goodwill/humanitarian/fair play arguments can always be made for this. (I'm still bitter about our boycott of the Moscow Olympics.)

Competing or performing a made-for-pimping event that is blatantly in praise of, for the amusement of, and in worship of, this naughty ruler/ruling class = piss poor judgment at the least.

Naughty rulers? :rofl: :rofl:

So as long as the "naughty rulers/ruling class" don't derive any pleasure out of the figure skating performances it's OK? PML. If we're basing it on that North Korea is OK too then. :lol:

julieann
02-22-2012, 08:16 PM
I'm so sick of these skaters expected to be good will ambassadors, they're not. I would skate for Jabba the Hut in a gold bikini if it meant I had the opportunity to skate after a long hiatus.

(((Laura)))

kwanfan1818
02-22-2012, 08:37 PM
. If I were her, I'd :lynch: him right away. Not only did he not do enough research on this to let her know about what happened to Tomas Verner last year, he now comes up with gems like these.
What happened to Tomas Verner was and is still an exception, even if it also happened to Lepisto. Pechalat/Bourzat have gone twice now, and I haven't seen any evidence of an uproar in France or against any of the other skaters who've participated.

ioana
02-22-2012, 08:49 PM
What happened to Tomas Verner was and is still an exception, even if it also happened to Lepisto. Pechalat/Bourzat have gone twice now, and I haven't seen any evidence of an uproar in France or against any of the other skaters who've participated.

I'd expect my agent (and national federation whom she asked) to let me know something like that has happened in the past. However unlikely it might be to repeat itself. Laura sounded caught by surprise that anyone could look at her decision as anything *but* a well-intentioned desire to skate again and learn more about NK in the process.

Meanwhile, the agent comes across as a complete twat whose idea of damage control is to babble on about how fool-proof his decision-making process seems to be. Despite all evidence to the contrary.

kwanfan1818
02-22-2012, 08:51 PM
Her agent sounds like a dweeb, yes.

ioana
02-22-2012, 08:58 PM
Her agent sounds like a dweeb, yes.

We're in agreement in that case :). Sorry, I misunderstood your post to disagree with that part of mine.

kwanfan1818
02-22-2012, 09:05 PM
I wasn't very clear.

IDC a.k.a. Ritti
02-22-2012, 09:50 PM
Google Translation:
Alaja Erkki (b. 1952) will serve as your advertising agency led by a nut....

LOL!
In fact, the text says: "Erkki Alaja runs his own advertising agency, Pähkinä". ('pähkinä' = nut.)

I think he used to be Rahkamo/Kokko's manager too in the 90's. To my understanding he has been primarily a soccer expert.

Vagabond
02-22-2012, 10:25 PM
I liked the Google translation better. :shuffle:

Jammers
02-23-2012, 05:27 PM
Anyone who thinks that the ordinary folks who are starving in NK were the ones who got to see Laura skate are living in a fantasy world. Most likely it was the ruling class and elites and the their families as it is with most communist countries. So much for the communist philosophy of the peasants rising up against their oppressive leaders. Just not in those countries.