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Garden Kitty
04-10-2010, 07:37 PM
Is Scott still involved in SOI? I thought not. And over the years when he was involved, there were plenty of non-American skaters on the tour.

Scott is listed as the Producer on the website. (http://www.starsonice.com/figure-skating/?content=creative_team)

The skating environment has really changed in the last decade. It used to be that SOI was the best paying (sometimes only) option for skaters. But in the last few years, the opportunities in Russia, Japan and Korea have definitely increased. Plus, Russian and Japanese skaters are probably more of a draw to the general public in their countries/regions than they are in the US, so they're worth more to show producers in those countries.

I'm sure SOI would love to have Mao, Dai or Yu Na, but I doubt they could afford them for the full US tour.

kwanette
04-10-2010, 07:46 PM
Scott is listed as the Producer on the website. (http://www.starsonice.com/figure-skating/?content=creative_team)

The skating environment has really changed in the last decade. It used to be that SOI was the best paying (sometimes only) option for skaters. But in the last few years, the opportunities in Russia, Japan and Korea have definitely increased. Plus, Russian and Japanese skaters are probably more of a draw to the general public in their countries/regions than they are in the US, so they're worth more to show producers in those countries.

I'm sure SOI would love to have Mao, Dai or Yu Na, but I doubt they could afford them for the full US tour.

Thanks, GK, must have gotten misinformation.

Debbie S
04-10-2010, 07:58 PM
I think who did the group numbers had to have more to do with who had the time to get together and practice them than anything. Rachel and Mirai also did not particpate much in group numbers.That's b/c they are only in a few shows; they are really more like 'guest stars', like B/A, Evan, and Kimmie have been in recent years, in the post-Worlds shows. They weren't in the group numbers in those years. It makes sense when you're putting together a group number to only have the skaters that will be in pretty much every show. Otherwise, you have to make constant adjustments to the choreo and that's hard on everybody. I wasn't expecting Evan or Mirai to do the group numbers. Evan is a 'regular', but he's missing quite a few shows to do DWTS. It would have been nice to see him do an extra solo, but it's possible he's limited b/c of his injury, and if not that, his DWTS training.


As for the themes and group numbers. I'm kinda glad they didn't do that this year. I've always found the themes and most group numbers to be boring and cheesy on the T.V. broadcasts and actually enjoyed the format this year much more. I agree with this. In recent years, the 'themes' have felt so contrived. After paying $80 for a ticket, do I really want to watch Jamie Sale on the TV monitor talking about how the cast is one big happy family? No, I want to see skating. I like seeing the group numbers but I don't care if they all have the same theme. Actually, there was a theme this year: Concert. I guess that's where the "Rock the Runway" number (and Ben's guitar-playing moments) came from. The finale is called "I've Got the Music in Me", so I guess that fits with the theme. But it was low-key this year, not thrown in our faces (and less talking on the ice or TV screens), which was fine with me.

Wyliefan
04-10-2010, 08:29 PM
I'm still trying to figure out the yodeling bit with the three ladies. :lol: It was cute, but kind of random!

skipaway
04-10-2010, 09:00 PM
I'm still trying to figure out the yodeling bit with the three ladies. :lol: It was cute, but kind of random!

Orange is Not Sasha's color :yikes:

Wyliefan
04-10-2010, 09:30 PM
I couldn't even tell it was Sasha, what with the weird costume and the wig!

vivika1982
04-10-2010, 10:04 PM
TV report from Jessica Fragosso.

Tanith,Ben,Mirai,Charlie and Meryl are so relaxed and cute
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwQXDLfkR_E

Sasha Cohen "Haleluya"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfgQeyHa0Xk

Carmen Ovsiannikov
04-11-2010, 01:37 AM
Scott is listed as the Producer on the website. (http://www.starsonice.com/figure-skating/?content=creative_team)

The skating environment has really changed in the last decade. It used to be that SOI was the best paying (sometimes only) option for skaters. But in the last few years, the opportunities in Russia, Japan and Korea have definitely increased. Plus, Russian and Japanese skaters are probably more of a draw to the general public in their countries/regions than they are in the US, so they're worth more to show producers in those countries.

I'm sure SOI would love to have Mao, Dai or Yu Na, but I doubt they could afford them for the full US tour.

You made a good point Garden Kitty. The audiences have certainly changed. I watched some of the Olympics and Worlds earlier this morning and was thinking about how back in the day, SOI would have probably hired the current champions/skaters (especially if those skaters had turned pro) so we would still get a B&A and a Sasha but there would also have been slots for skaters such as Lambiel, Buttle and possibly even Navboms. Kim and Brent were made for show skating with their personalities and the chemistry between the two.

Skaters such as Josee Choinard or Annenko/Stretinski and Hough/Ladret probably wouldn't have been invited to to tour with SOI if they were competing these days.

OTOH, sometimes I still feel that the producers of SOI and the Disson shows second guess what their audiences want to see and sometimes get it wrong. Shizuka and Stephane were very well received (at least it appeared that way) during the Thin Ice competition.

That said the Russian, European and Asian skaters most likely are doing much better touring in those countries so you are right that there isn't much incentive for those skaters to want to skate in the U.S. or even Canada even if the tour producers could afford them.

angryyew
04-11-2010, 01:50 AM
I'm still trying to figure out the yodeling bit with the three ladies. :lol: It was cute, but kind of random!

I had the same thought. Cute but also kinda a wtf? moment.

Re: Rachel Flatt looking better in person. I had exactly the same thought. On t.v. she seems so slow and plodding, but live she seemed faster and rather than seeming heavy her edges had a feeling of security and power that just doesn't seem to translate to the t.v.

Jeremy Abbott was also better live I thought. He looks good on tv too, but it doesn't quite seem to capture just how smooth he is. I often find him boring on t.v., but live he was a favorite.

And more in the vein of "different strokes" someone on here commented they wouldn't pay money to see the core cast skate without other skaters to bolster the roster. My mom couldn't quit gushing about how much she loves Todd Eldridge and how he was her favorite one.

I think it's good to have a mix of new faces and old favorites. I'd love to be able to see a lot of the skaters that weren't there and I will say the mix of us and international skaters I got to see at COI back in the 90s was better, but that was during the figure skating boom in the U.S. and times are just different now.

I definitely felt like I got to see a good show tho and I enjoyed the skaters I did get to see. I still want to Johnny tho.

Wyliefan
04-11-2010, 02:25 AM
Jeremy Abbott was also better live I thought. He looks good on tv too, but it doesn't quite seem to capture just how smooth he is. I often find him boring on t.v., but live he was a favorite.


He was excellent. Truthfully, there wasn't a skater in the lot this year, older or younger, whom I didn't enjoy. There've been a few in past shows that I wasn't too keen about, but not in this group.

FigureSpins
04-11-2010, 03:22 AM
The raleigh attendance was actually higher than I was expecting based on reports that I'd seen here that overall soi attedance has been down in recent years. I just don't think they're gonna get many casual fans to attend with ticket prices being what they are, particularly once you add in parking, fees etc. They didn't really heavily adverstise the Raleigh show either. We went to the Raleigh show and the arena was pretty empty compared to the 'Canes game we saw last month. I think the SOI tally was 3600 people, which is good, but not great.

I also think promotion was weak, but having Disney on Ice here around holiday time, coupled with the economy, it was poor timing.

I really don't understand why the organizers didn't close off the almost-empty top section and move the fans down to the lower sections. They could have gotten by with fewer concession and maintenance workers and generated some good will. The ushers were adamant about checking seats - a teenage girl went to buy a pretzel and the usher wouldn't let her go back without the ticket. We went in using our tickets and said we'd tell her parents to bring the ticket. That must have made the usher change her mind because the kid reached her parents' seats as we did.

Very different staff attitude from the Hurricanes game, when they let DH and I go look for my cousin, who has season tix seats in a lower section.

The USFSA had a 2011 Nationals booth handing out brochures and taking ticket sales. Still had to pay the service charge, so I took a pass. I decided take advantage of the April 15% mail/fax deal at my leisure rather than at the show. I had expected a contest for tickets or a package, but no such luck.

I missed the "themed show" that we saw a few years ago at SOI. Since they had many olympians skating, the "Champion Stars on Ice-Old/New" theme was okay for this year, but I wouldn't go next year unless there was a real theme for the show.

However, I liked being able to see Sasha and the other skaters' competitive programs in person. I love that red dress Sasha wore for her short program. Also adored Rachel in a well-fitting blue outfit. She's a even faster skater in person, with great posture and flexibility. Davis/White's Indian original dance was even more awesome in person.

Lysacek's solo was good, even with the fall. He looked surprised by it as well. I know he was in the final group number for a few minutes, but I would have liked to see him skate another solo (even if it's his Olympic exhibition number).

I didn't get the guitar hero routine with Ben Agosto. I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop, thinking it was a comedy bit. Nope. His musical talents were lost on me because I really don't like electric guitar solos. I think I'm getting old.

Tanith and Ben really are great entertainers. I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up with a Vegas show - isn't there a casino with an ice rink in the desert? They seemed to be relaxed and enjoyed themselves. Delightful to watch.

Weiss is a trooper and also seems to love what he's doing. My kids squealed when he did his heel glides, babbling about his special blades. The backflips are always a hit.

I liked watching Todd skate, especially the fast footwork. At one point, it looked like he was barely touching the ice in a circular footwork step - he was flying! Awesome.

Loved the ballerina duet with Alissa and Sasha. Absolute elegance on the ice.

I don't know why, but Yuka doesn't do much for me. I feel like she's wearing a cheerleader mask and being a good sport. During one group number that was supposed to be hip-hop and sexy, I thought out loud: "I doubt either Alissa or Yuka have ever danced dirty in their lives." They go through the motions and gestures, but they don't give off a sexy vibe. Tanith looks like she's done her share of frat parties, lol. (I mean that in a good way.)

Jeremy was very good and very well-spoken. I can't stand the Stars on Ice and Smucker's spokesman spots, but I guess that's the costume-change stall. I preferred the Ice Capades clown numbers, lol.

I didn't get the survey and I wish I had - my kids would really like to meet more skating stars. They got to meet Paul Wylie and Todd Eldredge this week and now they're in Uber mode!



I'm still trying to figure out the yodeling bit with the three ladies. :lol: It was cute, but kind of random!
It was strange. That was a lot of costuming for a short gag. It would have been funnier if they had actually yodeled while they skated.

DreamSkates
04-11-2010, 03:51 AM
Obviously a first night show but random thoughts:

some fun group numbers, some lovely ladies skating, great pair number from the champs, Tanith can replace Shae-lynn any day. Sasha had wardrobe malfunction ;-) but the cast was saved by Alyssa picking up the two headbands before disaster struck.
Todd seems a very relaxed host, Michael's back flips apparently never fail to please. For reasons that escape me, Ben plays guitar solos twice(??) but he's injured so I'll be kind; he did do a very cute number with Tanith.
Joannie's number (Vole) was skated beautifully.
Without diminishing any other skater's performance, the showstopper was definitely Evan. Sold his number 1000% and deserved his standing O.(color me surprised!)

Just saw this in Raleigh, NC last night. Disappointing there were no pairs at all. Joannie was not there. Evan really did sell his number and got a standing O even thought he had a weird fall/split/landed on his rear end (obviously embarrassed). My favorite numbers were Todd and Michael's, later in the show. Yuka Sato, I could watch her all night. Everything else was very enjoyable and yes, strange that Ben played guitar twice altho he did a bang up job on the second song - he's quite good! Overall, worth going to see. Mirai did well also, tho fell once but I was glad to see her skate, Rachel also. Ice dancing was great.

added:
I agree about the ticket prices - add on the processing fees plus parking, and that's an extra $15-20 per ticket. But my hubby did ask Paul Wylie (sitting just a few rows down from us) for an autograph for me - wrote his name on the ticket! Was that worth the $120 plus gas....?

Wyliefan
04-11-2010, 04:00 AM
I don't know why, but Yuka doesn't do much for me. I feel like she's wearing a cheerleader mask and being a good sport. During one group number that was supposed to be hip-hop and sexy, I thought out loud: "I doubt either Alissa or Yuka have ever danced dirty in their lives." They go through the motions and gestures, but they don't give off a sexy vibe. Tanith looks like she's done her share of frat parties, lol. (I mean that in a good way.)


That's the thing about that kind of group number. Not everyone can do the sexy/dirty thing, and not everyone should have to. It doesn't fit some people at all. (Or looking at it from another angle, as my friend who went with me put it, "Why do the girls all have to dress like skanks when the guys don't?") With the comedy-style numbers that they used to do, it seemed like everyone could clown around and contribute to the fun and not really have to force themselves into a mold that might not work for them.


But my hubby did ask Paul Wylie (sitting just a few rows down from us) for an autograph for me - wrote his name on the ticket! Was that worth the $120 plus gas....?

I would say yes! :D

angryyew
04-11-2010, 04:18 AM
I really don't understand why the organizers didn't close off the almost-empty top section and move the fans down to the lower sections. They could have gotten by with fewer concession and maintenance workers and generated some good will. The ushers were adamant about checking seats - a teenage girl went to buy a pretzel and the usher wouldn't let her go back without the ticket. We went in using our tickets and said we'd tell her parents to bring the ticket. That must have made the usher change her mind because the kid reached her parents' seats as we did.

Very different staff attitude from the Hurricanes game, when they let DH and I go look for my cousin, who has season tix seats in a lower section.



I had kinda wondered about the staff thing. This is the first event I've attended at RBC center, in spite of the fact that I live right down the street from it. Some of the ushers were very hepful, but the one standing in front of section 120 that we had the misfortune of dealing with was not one of them. Never having been to the place before, we weren't sure if "floor seating" meant the section below where we were supposed to be or what, so my mom asked the usher if we needed to be upstairs and she was all "what do you mean upstairs, it says 120 on your ticket and this is 120." Then she proceeds to tell us you're in row Y, which is four rows down. So we go down four rows and see row "YY" which seems like it probably isn't right, given that there are people sitting in "our" seats, but given that I had two older ladies with me that I didn't want to make climb down and then climb back up, we spent some time debating it before the nice lady sitting there explained to us that our seats were further down. None of which would have been an issue if the usher hadn't incorrectly, and rudely told us our seats were four rows down :>

I was also kind of disappointed with the people directing traffic in the lot. I found it very confusing and there seemed to be a lot more of them around to get your ten bucks to get in than to help you get out and the ones that were there were a wreck waiting to happen.

So I guess it's good to hear that maybe this isn't typical, but also kinda suggests that maybe they didn't take this event all that seriously. Thanks to dwts and Kristi Yamiguchi formerly living the area I think they could get more fans to attend SOI if they promoted it more and lowered the ticket prices.

Erica Lee
04-11-2010, 04:26 AM
People keep posting that "Joannie was not there" about their stops. She's not going to be at any other SOI stops. She was never supposed to by at *any* SOI stops and was added to the 4 florida shows last-minute. It was an excellent bonus for those in FL, but no one else should expect to see her.