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chipso1
03-29-2010, 10:42 PM
As for the other disciplines for SGP:

Men: Abbott (2), Rippon (2), Mroz (2), Miner (2), Hochstein (2),Mahbanoozadeh? (1), Dornbush? (1 - poss. Skate America?), Carriere? (1)

...again, a lot of ^ depends on whether veterans like Lysacek/Weir/Bradley come back next season. I think Messing, Farris and Brown will be guaranteed JGP spots.

Pairs: Denney/Barrett (2), Evora/Ladwig (2), McLaughlin/Brubaker (2), Yankowskas/Coughlin (2), Castile/Okolski? (1 or 2), Castelli/Shnapir (2?), Dobbs/Jacobson (1 - Skate America?),

...^if Inoue/Baldwin and Castile/Okolski don't come back, a spot could potentially open up for Simpson/Miller, Zhang/Toth or Aaron/Cohen (a SA host spot probably?). If Katz/Lynch come back strong they could make a case for the third SA spot, too.

Dance: Davis/White (2), Samuelson/Bates (2), Chock/Zuerlein (2), Hubbell/Hubbell (2), Summersett/Gilles (1, poss. 2?).

...^will the Shibs move up to senior? If so, I think they'll get 2 assignments. Tibbetts/Brubaker could possibly get 1 (maybe SA?)...if not, I can see them doing Nebelhorn. Ditto for Kriengkrairut/Giulietti-Schmitt, who could very well get Skate America.

TanithandBenFan
03-29-2010, 10:46 PM
Ditto for Kriengkrairut/Giulietti-Schmitt, who could very well get Skate America.

From your mouth to the GP assignment gods' ears! Love this team and would love to see them in Portland.

haribobo
03-29-2010, 11:05 PM
The challenging part is that there is a limited number of men's spots on the JGP for US men based on their finish at Junior Worlds. Because of that, we will only have 7 spots for the entire series.

Wow, that seems so crazy but that is indeed the proper amount based on ISU. If China, for example, doesn't use all its spots, then USA might get more. Also, not sure who is hosting what but if USFS hosts anything, they will get 3 spots for the men in that event.

Sylvia
03-29-2010, 11:10 PM
Last season was when the ISU changed the rule re. the number of JGP entries for singles skaters and dance teams from the top 5 countries' placements at Junior Worlds to top 3. It's published in last year's JGP Announcement. However, if a country such as China chooses not to send 2 men to each of the 7 JGPs next season, the USA should be next in line to pick up some of their unused men's slots.

mysticchic
03-29-2010, 11:22 PM
I don't think Bebe will get anything this year. She's not even in the top 35 SB scores. US ladies are in bold.

here is the sb scores for ladies
top 35 seasons best

4.190.15 Nagasu
7.182.49 Flatt
16. 163.97 Wagner
18. 163.53 Czisny
20. 160.78 Zhang
23. 158.23 Dobbs
25. 156.79 Zawadzki
31. 151.92 Gilles
32 151.47 Gao

39. 147.39 Musademba

40. 146.98 Baga
46. 137.55 Maxwell
54. 131.39 Liang
55. 131.33 Kawamura

dinakt
03-29-2010, 11:29 PM
Re: the post above- where does Makarova fit in there? Thank you!

Sylvia
03-29-2010, 11:30 PM
2010-11 Senior GP early general discussion (not just US skaters): http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=72823

2010-11 JGP early general discussion: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=69215

mysticchic
03-29-2010, 11:33 PM
Here are the mens
2. Evan 25770
8 Weir 238.87
10. Abbott 235.38
11.Rippon 231.38
23. Mroz 212.68
25.Bradley 212.19
34. Messing 197.03
35. Miner 196.09
37. Carriere 195.08
38. Hochstein 194.30
39. Dornbush 191.80
42. Mahbanoozadeh 186.48

mysticchic
03-29-2010, 11:35 PM
Re: the post above- where does Makarova fit in there? Thank you!

she is ranked 12 on season best

SamuraiK
03-30-2010, 12:01 AM
she is ranked 12 on season best

Makarova was 8th at worlds so she's guaranteed 2 events next season no matter what. And I Think Ross Miner will be the first to get 2nd event because he already has 1 event in the bag thanks to his bronze at JGP final unlike Dornbush, Hochstein, Armin, etc...


My Take on Ladies ....

Guaranteed 2 Spots

Nagasu & Flat (4) : Both Top 12 at worlds, according to the rules they'll get 2 events.

For Sure 2 Spots

Czisny, Wagner & Zhang (6) : All three girls will be among the top 24 SB scores and Top 24 world standings , plus they all have high enough profiles in the international scene, they'll get 2 events no matter what too.

Gao & Zawadski (4) : If both decide to move up to Senior they will have no problem with getting the second assignemnt (they already have one thanks to JGP and Jr. Worlds), all the top juniors from the last season always get two events in the next Grand Prix and even the not so top juniors (think Hecken and Helgesson this year).


More than Likely 2 Spots :

Dobbs (2) : She'll be among the Top 24 scores and her 4th place at Four Continents wont be ignored. SHe's the new Katrina Hacker, she'll get two.


Likely only 1 Spot, but you never know :

With all of the above we're left with only 2 slots available. One will probably go to Gilles thanks to her decent enough results and the last one should be the 3rd Skate America girl (Musademba, Maxwell or Gilles again) after the monitoring of summer competitions.


Bebe is done .

mysticchic
03-30-2010, 12:28 AM
Dance
2. D&W 223.03
4. B&A 203.07
15, Shibs 175.95
16. S&B 174.30
27 Navbom 160.89
33 Hubbell 154.20
34. C&Z 153.92
35. C&L 153.77
36. T&B 153.50
38. Gilles and Donohue 152.60
53. Lichtman and Copely 144.74
54. Summersett and Gilles 144.53

barbk
03-30-2010, 12:34 AM
Makarova was 8th at worlds so she's guaranteed 2 events next season no matter what. And I Think Ross Miner will be the first to get 2nd event because he already has 1 event in the bag thanks to his bronze at JGP final unlike Dornbush, Hochstein, Armin, etc...


My Take on Ladies ....

Guaranteed 2 Spots

Nagasu & Flat (4) : Both Top 12 at worlds, according to the rules they'll get 2 events.

For Sure 2 Spots

Czisny, Wagner & Zhang (6) : All three girls will be among the top 24 SB scores and Top 24 world standings , plus they all have high enough profiles in the international scene, they'll get 2 events no matter what too.

Gao & Zawadski (4) : If both decide to move up to Senior they will have no problem with getting the second assignemnt (they already have one thanks to JGP and Jr. Worlds), all the top juniors from the last season always get two events in the next Grand Prix and even the not so top juniors (think Hecken and Helgesson this year).


More than Likely 2 Spots :

Dobbs (2) : She'll be among the Top 24 scores and her 4th place at Four Continents wont be ignored. SHe's the new Katrina Hacker, she'll get two.


Likely only 1 Spot, but you never know :

With all of the above we're left with only 2 slots available. One will probably go to Gilles thanks to her decent enough results and the last one should be the 3rd Skate America girl (Musademba, Maxwell or Gilles again) after the monitoring of summer competitions.


Bebe is done .

Nice analysis. I hope that the USFSA doesn't assign any of Musademba, Maxwell or Gilles before seeing several solid summer comp results from any of them -- they've each had rather weak outings this year. Is Meissner in the mix for one GP event if she does well during the summer? I'd take her over the other three in a heartbeat.

mysticchic
03-30-2010, 12:34 AM
Pairs
10. Denny and Barrett 172.47
12. E&L 171.92
14. McBru 170.17
16. I&B 158.78
18. 18 157.49 Caitlin YANKOWSKAS / John COUGHLIN
31 Simpson and Miller 144.80
35. Brook and Ben 139.58
40. Castelli and Shnapir 133.01
47. Zhang and Toth 128.01

mysticchic
03-30-2010, 12:36 AM
Nice analysis. I hope that the USFSA doesn't assign any of Musademba, Maxwell or Gilles before seeing several solid summer comp results from any of them -- they've each had rather weak outings this year. Is Meissner in the mix for one GP event if she does well during the summer? I'd take her over the other three in a heartbeat.

Kimmie is ranked 33 in the world. No season best this year

barbk
03-30-2010, 12:38 AM
Dance
2. D&W 223.03
4. B&A 203.07
15, Shibs 175.95
16. S&B 174.30
27 Navbom 160.89
33 Hubbell 154.20
34. C&Z 153.92
35. C&L 153.77
36. T&B 153.50
38. Gilles and Donohue 152.60
53. Lichtman and Copely 144.74
54. Summersett and Gilles 144.53

I'm curious about how the Shibutanis are likely to score in international senior competitions given how high their junior scores have been. I'm still trying to picture them doing better than Samuelson & Bates -- but aren't junior scores generally lower because there are fewer elements and shorter program times?