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smurfy
10-31-2010, 07:02 PM
I just saw 'hornet's next' very good, but in some ways the weakest of the 3 movies. I read all 3 books, and I understand books 2 & 3 were miniseries on tv that were much longer. That would explain any weaknesses. Lots of left out, due to time, but Lisbeth's story is there. When reading the book, especially the 3rd one, I could hear Lisbeth going F#$# Blomquist. None of that in the movie, missed that. Still worth seeing!

BigB08822
10-31-2010, 07:04 PM
Was The Girl Who Played With Fire any good? I saw it available at the Red Box but wasn't sure if the other movies were anything as good as the Tattoo.

genevieve
10-31-2010, 07:13 PM
Yeah, I'm of two minds about the third one. I understand they had to cut out a LOT, and actually the cuts seemed cleaner in this film than the first two, but a lot of what made the series - particularly the third book - so thrilling was seeing how these very separate threads come together in the end.

The one thing I've hated in all three films is how Erika Berger is portrayed. On film she's this quivering mess, in the book she's an incredibly strong character.

I also had a tiny laugh at Lisbeth hopping back to bed during her recovery. Reminded me a bit of Cindy Brady when she was faking a foot injury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg25RCC0nLA&feature=related
(skip ahead to the 8 minute mark)
:P

IceAlisa
10-31-2010, 08:21 PM
One thing about the last movie is that it is not self-sufficient. You absolutely have to have read the books to get what's happening. Hubby who hasn't read the books but has seen the previous two movies was completely lost.

Now I am at a difficulty to say whether this applies to any other series like say, Harry Potter and if people who haven't read the books can enjoy the movies.

smurfy
10-31-2010, 08:43 PM
So agree that the cuts impact the quality of the movie.
The other thing they left out of movie 2 & 3, which seem silly, but Lisbeth's development is the ommission of the her boob job. Seems minor, but I think it gave her confidence.
And I totally agree, the 3rd movie, you need to have read the books. Possibly if you see all 3 movies in a row, but you need the books. Even though I knew how it would end, I still enjoyed the movies. But like the 3rd movie, as with the 3rd book, I think I was sad that the ride was coming to an end. There were so many people and knowing there were 10 planned books, I couldn't help but thnk these folks would pop up in later books and be rewarded with some cool stories.

genevieve
10-31-2010, 08:52 PM
So agree that the cuts impact the quality of the movie.
The other thing they left out of movie 2 & 3, which seem silly, but Lisbeth's development is the ommission of the her boob job. Seems minor, but I think it gave her confidence.


I'm actually glad they left that out of the films. It was an example of a VERY male-centric writer trying to write from a feminine perspective, and one of the weaker parts of the story.

Not that boob jobs don't give some women confidence; I just found it out of character for Lisbeth.

musicgurl
10-31-2010, 09:43 PM
One thing about the last movie is that it is not self-sufficient. You absolutely have to have read the books to get what's happening. Hubby who hasn't read the books but has seen the previous two movies was completely lost.

Now I am at a difficulty to say whether this applies to any other series like say, Harry Potter and if people who haven't read the books can enjoy the movies.

I enjoyed the Harry Potter movies but I haven't read the books. But then I was relatively familiar with the story before I saw the movies.
I do plan to read The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo before I watch the movie. I also plan on watching the original movie before I see the remake. Mostly because of reading this thread and hearing how good the movie is.

Nan
11-01-2010, 05:02 PM
I've read all three books and seen the first two movies. I'm impatient for the third to hit video so I can see that, too. I have my doubts I'll get as lucky with the third as I did with the second and be able to see it on the big screen.

I'm not completely sure any of the movies make complete sense if you haven't read the books, but I can't judge that accurately since I have read them.

genevieve
11-01-2010, 07:05 PM
I saw one of our board members at the 2nd movie - found out later that she hasn't read the books. She said she had to see the 2nd movie twice and was still confused.

The third one felt more linear, like someone who had seen the other 2 films but hadn't read the books might have an easier time understanding the plot. I mean, there's a lot they wouldn't get, but it seemed like they'd get a complete story - just not the entire one from the book. Of course, having read the books, I could be completely wrong.

BigB08822
11-01-2010, 07:12 PM
Well I haven't read the books but I saw the first one and thought it made sense. I didn't have any trouble following it, to be honest. However, now I wonder if I should see the 2nd one (it is streaming on Netflix) or read the books first. Hmm...

BigB08822
01-12-2011, 09:35 PM
The first image of the American version! She looks good, not too different from the original. Also talks about why a couple of other actresses were passed over:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/01/see_the_official_first_look_of.html

I love that David Fincher is doing this, he usually does quite well. I just watched The Social Network last night so his name finally means something to me.

IceAlisa
01-12-2011, 11:09 PM
Noomi is much prettier IMO, better bone structure. The most important thing is, of course, is she going to be a good Salander?

DubbalinGirl
01-13-2011, 01:13 AM
And they wonder why we cringe at the Americanized remake? The writer really thinks he has a better ending? W Magazine (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/01/12/first-good-look-at-rooney-mara-in-character-as-lisbeth-salander/) "Changes it in crucial ways"???? WHY?

IceAlisa
01-13-2011, 01:30 AM
And they wonder why we cringe at the Americanized remake? The writer really thinks he has a better ending? W Magazine (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/01/12/first-good-look-at-rooney-mara-in-character-as-lisbeth-salander/) "Changes it in crucial ways"???? WHY?

WHAT?????????? :lynch:

genevieve
01-13-2011, 01:58 AM
Noomi is much prettier IMO, better bone structure. The most important thing is, of course, is she going to be a good Salander?
Well, for this character the look is pretty darned important - and I am relieved at the photo (even though the pose is silly). I think this Salander will be believable.


And they wonder why we cringe at the Americanized remake? The writer really thinks he has a better ending? W Magazine (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/01/12/first-good-look-at-rooney-mara-in-character-as-lisbeth-salander/) "Changes it in crucial ways"???? WHY?
Ok, them's fightin' words :lynch:

Taking the optomist's POV, look at The Bourne Identity films. I loved those books as a teen, and the films make some major departures in the storyline, starting with the very first one. But they are still good films. Of course, it had been a decade since I'd read the last book when the first film came out, and as I learned with the fifth Harry Potter movie, distance from the source material can be a crucial part of enjoying a book adaptation.

OTOH ---- WTF?!?!? :wall: