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IceAlisa
01-02-2012, 10:34 PM
Is Patricia her first name? Interesting how so many celebs go with their middle name. Ashton Kutcher, Kemp Muhl, etc.

FiveRinger
01-02-2012, 11:56 PM
The rape scene is just as brutal and hard to watch. Yes, they had the cat scene in this one. The cat, btw is adorable (when alive).

I saw the movie on Xmas, and I have to say that the rape scene was disturbing...I couldn't watch it, had my head in my knees during the entire scene.

I enjoyed the movie more than I thought that I would. I am motivated to read the book now, which has been on my Kindle for over a year and I hadn't gotten around to reading.

Marge_Simpson
01-03-2012, 03:51 AM
Heads-up for any Noomi fans in the NYC area: Scandinavia House is showing the film "Beyond" this Wednesday at 6:30 PM.
I go to movies here quite often, the theater is rather small but there's a nice restaurant on the premises, and you can usually find Fazer chocolates in the gift shop.
I'm tempted to call in sick so I can see this. I've been enchanted with Noomi's acting since I saw GWTDT.

http://www.scandinaviahouse.org/events_films_upcoming.html

NeilJLeonard
01-03-2012, 04:20 AM
Is Patricia her first name? Interesting how so many celebs go with their middle name. Ashton Kutcher, Kemp Muhl, etc.
Yes, her 1st name is Patricia. The Wiki entry for her says that she does not like her 1st name; she supposedly does not see herself as a "Tricia", plus she thinks that Rooney Mara is more distinctive than Patricia Mara. She has a point on that last part. Rooney Mara is rather difficult to forget....;)

NJL (...and, her portrayal of Lisbeth proves she probably ain't no "Patsy" either...:D...)

Evilynn
01-03-2012, 10:03 AM
The website doesn't allow links but I searched it and have to say that I have never seen the poster with Mara naked advertising the movie. The one that's widely used is with the profile of her with Craig looking over his shoulder. Also, I don't think boobs means X-rated, usually just R.

There was nudity in the Swedish film as well but not as close-up as in the US version. Nudity doesn't bother me usually, violence does.

Without the posters I think my argument wasn't so clear, it was more about her being objectified than her being nude. Sweden is a lot more relaxed about nudity than the US (we got the uncensored poster after all, showing nipples is not a problem ;)). It irks me, because Salander obviously isn't passive at all. Oh well, marketing, I guess.

One thing I really liked about Fincher's movie was all the details, all the interiors etc seem to actually be shot on site, although they could've easily saved money doing Milton Security in an anonymous studio office, instead they actually shot it in an office in a building I used to work in. Very cool to see. :)

Vash01
01-03-2012, 04:13 PM
Yes, her 1st name is Patricia. The Wiki entry for her says that she does not like her 1st name; she supposedly does not see herself as a "Tricia", plus she thinks that Rooney Mara is more distinctive than Patricia Mara. She has a point on that last part. Rooney Mara is rather difficult to forget....;)

NJL (...and, her portrayal of Lisbeth proves she probably ain't no "Patsy" either...:D...)

I read that Tim Mara, the New York Giants (NFL) GM or something of that order is her grand father, and her mother is either the daughter or grand daughter of Art Rooney, the Pittsburg Steelers (NFL) owner. I have the titles and relations mixed up, but it's correct that she has relatives in the two famous NFL franchises. She has good football genes, I must say.:lol:

IceAlisa
01-03-2012, 04:33 PM
Without the posters I think my argument wasn't so clear, it was more about her being objectified than her being nude. Sweden is a lot more relaxed about nudity than the US (we got the uncensored poster after all, showing nipples is not a problem ;)). I could never understand why rude Amerikans are so uptight about nudity.


One thing I really liked about Fincher's movie was all the details, all the interiors etc seem to actually be shot on site, although they could've easily saved money doing Milton Security in an anonymous studio office, instead they actually shot it in an office in a building I used to work in. Very cool to see. :)

That IS cool, especially if you have good memories of the place. :)
I wonder if the studio pulled all stops, no expense spared to one up the Swedish films.

NeilJLeonard
01-03-2012, 05:57 PM
I could never understand why rude Amerikans are so uptight about nudity.


That IS cool, especially if you have good memories of the place. :)
I wonder if the studio pulled all stops, no expense spared to one up the Swedish films.
Possibly. I forget the cost to produce the Swedish version, but I don't think it anywhere near matches the rumored $100 Mil cost of the the latest version.

ETA: cost of Swedish version = $13 Mil....Worldwide Gross = $104 mil w/$10 mil from US

Satellitegirl
01-03-2012, 09:06 PM
I saw the US version this weekend and I liked it. I think I like Noomi a bit better as Lisbeth...but maybe that's only because I saw her first. The ending in the US version might have been closer to the book, but I liked the Swedish version better I think in regards to that. With everything else, I thought the US version was better. I much prefer Craig, for sure. Opening sequence was pretty kick ass as well :).

ioana
01-03-2012, 09:47 PM
The rape scene is just as brutal and hard to watch. Yes, they had the cat scene in this one. The cat, btw is adorable (when alive).

I saw the movie when I was away from home, visiting parents and the cat looked (and sounded!) a lot like mine. I'm just reading the book now, so the scene came as a complete shock -and not a pleasant one while at it. I was freaked out and and called my friend right after the movie to make sure my own kittie was ok. Obviously, I don't do very well with animal violence :shuffle:

IceAlisa
01-03-2012, 11:43 PM
I don't either. Just remember, that kitty is an actor and by the looks of him, a very well cared for and well-loved cat. :cat:

oleada
01-04-2012, 04:57 AM
I haven't read the books, but now I've seen both movies. I was prepared to hate Mara after some :rolleyes: comments that I've read, but I think she more than held her own. I liked how she showed the character's development throughout the film. The elevator scene was badass. I prefer Rapace, but it's a very close call. I thought the pacing was a bit slow at first, but then it picked up.

The cat was the saddest part :fragile:

Jimena
01-16-2012, 05:25 AM
Just came back from seeing it. I've read the books and seen the Swedish films.

I liked this version. I love most of the actors in the movie. But I have to say, I had a hard time getting into Rooney Mara's performance. She seemed like she was playing a hard character rather than being a hard character. Like she was pretending to be that hard. I much preferred Noomi's interpretation.

genevieve
01-16-2012, 09:46 PM
I finally saw this last Saturday.

HATED the opening credits. What a stupid waste of CGI budget $$$ :blah: Love Karen O but that cover of Led Zeppelin was just as useless as the graphics.

Overall I thought the movie was very good, and in general better than the Swedish version. It was truer to the book and got closer to conveying the overall tone. And it was less graphic than I'd feared - thought the rape scenes were going to be worse than they were :yikes: Still very hard to watch, but I expected worse. :scream:

There were some small issues, though...

1) The accents. It's nice that Mara made an effort to establish a credible (did she succeed? EW says yes, I'll leave it to the Swedes to agree or disagree) Swedish accent, but Craig didn't bother one whit, and neither did Plummer. plus, there's already a suspension of belief in place, given that the film takes place in Sweden and everyone is speaking english. I think consistency among the leads would have been better.

2) Uneven casting. Mara was very good, and I think Craig was excellent. My favorite casting, though, was Robin Wright. her role was small but she really inhabited Erika. But Bjurman was either miscast or (more likely) misdirected... this is a character fueled by anger and malevolence and the actor here played him far too sympathetically. And Goran Visnjic and his spray-gray hair were just laughable.

As for Noomi vs. Rooney....this is definitely a career-maker for Rooney Mara, but I give the edge to Rapace. Both were very good, but it felt like Noomi Rapace WAS Lisbeth, and with Rooney Mara, sometimes I felt that and other times I was extremely aware of the Very Good Acting going on. As with the Bjurman character, I'm not sure if that's the acting or the directing, as the film itself seemed to take great pains to highlights certain things that felt wrong, rather than it being a problem with the acting.

Overall still an incredibly strong film and I will definitely be seeing the other installments when they come out.

IceAlisa
01-16-2012, 09:47 PM
ITA with your review, genevieve.