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IceAlisa
01-01-2012, 06:51 PM
We both disliked the opening (credits) sequence of the movie. I get what they were trying to do, but it came off as too heavy and artsy :drama:. I was pleased when it finally ended. :shuffle: Maybe the sound was just too loud in the theater... ITA. They were too high tech as if this were a Terminator movie. But I think the American crew saw the Swedish opening credits (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810006901/video/18690895/20100318/103/18690895-1000-wmv-s.104229141-,18690895-100-flash-s.104229134-,18690895-300-flash-s.104229136-,18690895-700-flash-s.104229137-,18690895-1000-flash-s.104229138-,18690895-700-wmv-s.104229139-,18690898-2700-qtv-s.104229142-,18690898-6800-qtv-s.104229143-,18690898-10300-qtv-s.104229144-) and decided they would go bigger, MUCH BIGGER. Bigger is not always better IMO.




I'm looking forward to the next two movies. :) Me too. I spoke to a friend who hasn't yet seen the US version and he sneered that the US Lisbeth is surely going to be prettier and more glamorous than the Swedish and I told him that he was wrong. :lol:

Lainerb
01-01-2012, 08:05 PM
Well wasn't the music produced or written by Trent Reznor? So, the start was basically a music video.

I felt like the US adaptation sexually exploited Lisbeth's character a lot more than the Swedish film.

IceAlisa
01-01-2012, 08:58 PM
I felt like the US adaptation sexually exploited Lisbeth's character a lot more than the Swedish film.

:huh:

Lainerb
01-02-2012, 12:51 AM
Well, the rape and sex scenes are far different from eachother. The US one had more gratuitous nudity scenes. It's not even the nudity that bothers me but rather the way it was used. The sex scene with Blomquist was a huge difference.

IceAlisa
01-02-2012, 01:01 AM
Some people have sex in the nude. :P I don't see anything particularly wrong or exploitative in the way the sex scenes were filmed. Le shrug.

Marge_Simpson
01-02-2012, 01:01 AM
I've seen all 3 of the Swedish films (sub-titled) and thought they were very well done. Noomi is fab. Is the American version worth seeing?
Having read the books beforehand, I knew that the rape scene was about to happen, and kept my eyes firmly planted at the floor until I was sure it was over.
Does the American film show the scene with the dead cat? I wouldn't care to watch that scene, either.

IceAlisa
01-02-2012, 01:05 AM
I was one of the skeptics when the US version was announced but have to admit the movie is good. And Mara did a great job, different from Noomi Rapace but still great.

The rape scene is just as brutal and hard to watch. Yes, they had the cat scene in this one. The cat, btw is adorable (when alive).

Lainerb
01-02-2012, 01:06 AM
Some people have sex in the nude. :P I don't see anything particularly wrong or exploitative in the way the sex scenes were filmed. Le shrug.

Oh, am I the only one to wear a habit while screwing?

IceAlisa
01-02-2012, 03:47 AM
Oh, am I the only one to wear a habit while screwing?

Kinky. :P

One thing didn't make sense to me: Why did Lisbeth had to stitch up Mikael with dental floss? (http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/3658/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-stills#photo5) Yes, they were on an island but surely they could have driven into town for a couple of stitches?

Evilynn
01-02-2012, 10:24 AM
ITA. They were too high tech as if this were a Terminator movie. But I think the American crew saw the Swedish opening credits (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810006901/video/18690895/20100318/103/18690895-1000-wmv-s.104229141-,18690895-100-flash-s.104229134-,18690895-300-flash-s.104229136-,18690895-700-flash-s.104229137-,18690895-1000-flash-s.104229138-,18690895-700-wmv-s.104229139-,18690898-2700-qtv-s.104229142-,18690898-6800-qtv-s.104229143-,18690898-10300-qtv-s.104229144-) and decided they would go bigger, MUCH BIGGER. Bigger is not always better IMO.


Oh, so THAT was what they were riffing off of! I had no idea why the hell there was a rubber and oil cheap-knock-off-of-Mark-Romanek music video as the opening credits. :lol:


Well wasn't the music produced or written by Trent Reznor? So, the start was basically a music video.

It was written and performed by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, but the intro is actually a Led Zeppelin cover with Karen O from the Yeah Yeah Yeahs on vocals. It's a one off collaboration, so the weird music-videoiness of it all can't be used to launch a band or anything like that. The end credits is Reznor's band with his wife & Ross, so that bit might be a case of I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine.



I felt like the US adaptation sexually exploited Lisbeth's character a lot more than the Swedish film.

I was looking at the posters for both at the cinema and thought they were quite telling:
Swedish movie poster (http://www.movieposterdb.com/posters/09_02/2009/1132620/l_1132620_a884bb53.jpg), US movie poster (http://www.movieposterdb.com/posters/11_06/2011/1568346/l_1568346_f5d63dc4.jpg) (although in Sweden we get the X-rated version where you see Mara's boobs).

I thought the Fincher movie was good, but despite being 2:40 long it felt rushed. I'm not sure if they could've cut more, it's a thick-ish book and it's plot driven, so I think they boiled it down as best they could.

I've seen the Swedish/Danish movie and read the book right before watching Fincher's movie, and in some ways it seems like the Fincher movie stuck closer to the book (admittedly it was quite awhile since I saw the Swedish adaptation). I find it more realistic that a young woman would jump Craig than Nyqvist, but I thought Mara did a lot better job than Craig overall in this movie.

I'm also feeling sort of sorry for all the Swedish actors who had to put on an exaggerated, awful accent. :lol:

NeilJLeonard
01-02-2012, 01:58 PM
I've watched all 3 Swedish films. The 1st was dubbed. The last two with subtitles. Good stuff either way. Noomi Rapace is a wonder. As is Sweden &, especially, Stockholm...;)

Hopefully, I can get to see the new The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo in a matinee today or tomorrow. It seems like it is in every local theater complex right now, including 2 that are within walking distance. I've just got to find which one has the lower price...:shuffle:

NJL

IceAlisa
01-02-2012, 06:22 PM
I was looking at the posters for both at the cinema and thought they were quite telling:
Swedish movie poster (http://www.movieposterdb.com/posters/09_02/2009/1132620/l_1132620_a884bb53.jpg), US movie poster (http://www.movieposterdb.com/posters/11_06/2011/1568346/l_1568346_f5d63dc4.jpg) (although in Sweden we get the X-rated version where you see Mara's boobs).
The website doesn't allow links but I searched it and have to say that I have never seen the poster with Mara naked advertising the movie. The one that's widely used is with the profile of her with Craig looking over his shoulder. Also, I don't think boobs means X-rated, usually just R.

There was nudity in the Swedish film as well but not as close-up as in the US version. Nudity doesn't bother me usually, violence does.

NeilJLeonard
01-02-2012, 08:08 PM
Probably not a popular opinion, but, the American version at least equals the Swedish overall and, in several ways, especially because the ending is closer to the book than the Swedish, IMvhO is better.....:wideeyes:...:shuffle:

Not to denigrate Noomi Rapace's performance in any way, I also thought that Rooney Mara redefines Lisbeth by making her harder edged in the beginning & softening her somewhat as the movie unfolded, only to regain the edge in the final scene. Helluva performance. Is should be a career maker.....:kickass:

Some drift from the book and as choppy as the book and the Swedish version, but that's just the way the story is. Overall a beguiling, excellent, excellent movie that I enjoyed tremendously. I highly recommend it....:encore:

NJL (...I also recommend the Swedish films, too...well made and well acted, all of them...:)...)

IceAlisa
01-02-2012, 09:14 PM
I don't think yours is an unpopular opinion, NJL. A lot of us seem to have liked the US version, despite ourselves. :shuffle:

I agree with you that the US ending was better being closer to the book.

NeilJLeonard
01-02-2012, 10:32 PM
I don't think yours is an unpopular opinion, NJL. A lot of us seem to have liked the US version, despite ourselves. :shuffle:

I agree with you that the US ending was better being closer to the book.
True, unlike the 1st page of this thread there seems to be near unanimous agreement that Hollywood made a very good movie. It is a good story well told in both, but, I think I'm the only one to state that, while the Swedish version is very, very good, the US version is the better movie.

Plus, thus far it seems that most give high marks to (Patricia) Rooney Mara, too. I did not think anyone could get close to Noomi Rapace's performance. Mara's is at least as good, IMO. That surprises and delights me. She's worth the price of admission.

NJL