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RD
06-13-2010, 03:55 PM
I sort of don't think Caroline will be a factor. I was really surprised Alissa and Fumie got 2 assignments though, and to Agnes doing GP, and Christina doing JGP (presumably). It's going to be interesting but I feel like we'll be seeing a lot of withdrawals.

Isn't that always the case?

pinky166
06-13-2010, 04:06 PM
Isn't that always the case?

:lol: true. no sasha though! i guess she's finally accepted reality (fumie, sarah meier, gizmo should maybe take a hint from her)

Polymer Bob
06-16-2010, 01:27 PM
Lets just hope she doesn't get more injuries. I'm surprised she doesn't have chronic tendonitis in her calf and a broken hip the way she mule kicks into her flips and lutzes and twists her body going into those triple loops :yikes:. And all that flexibility, it's gorgeous but I have to wonder how long her joints will last bending like that :(

She actually had tendonitis in her knee and some kind of back injury. That's why she didn't do her pearl spin at Nationals or 4CC. I think she said in an interview that her knee had recovered by 4CC, I'm not sure about the back.
Anyway, I hope she recovered and has the whole summer to polish her programs.

pinky166
06-17-2010, 03:17 AM
She actually had tendonitis in her knee and some kind of back injury. That's why she didn't do her pearl spin at Nationals or 4CC. I think she said in an interview that her knee had recovered by 4CC, I'm not sure about the back.
Anyway, I hope she recovered and has the whole summer to polish her programs.

I hope so too. She has stiff competition at her GP events, looking at the rosters, I don't see her placing higher than 4th at either, and realistically it will likely be more 5th or 6th :yawn:

tangerine_dream
06-17-2010, 10:57 AM
A conversation about Caroline's attitude towards skating popped up the other day, and if what I'm told is true (the source it came from is reliable so I feel pretty confident it is) her attitude is just as bad as ever and THAT would need to change before she progresses anywhere. From what it seems, everyone in the professional skating world is just sick of her and her tantrums. Being that I've seen a few myself, *if* they truly haven't improved then I can't be surprised people are over her. She's not a little 13 year old anymore, she needs to grow up if she wants people to help her.

Hopefully the source is wrong and she has indeed tamed, but if she hasn't, I highly doubt this season will be any more successful for her than her recent past.

Polymer Bob
06-17-2010, 12:39 PM
CZFAN over at GoldenSkate has posted a link with Caroline's blogs. She seems mostly positive about her training, and other skaters. She even praises Mirai. If there is any bitchiness, she hides it well. :D

http://fanzone.att.net/teamusa/athlete/caroline-zhang

RD
06-17-2010, 03:39 PM
A conversation about Caroline's attitude towards skating popped up the other day, and if what I'm told is true (the source it came from is reliable so I feel pretty confident it is) her attitude is just as bad as ever and THAT would need to change before she progresses anywhere. From what it seems, everyone in the professional skating world is just sick of her and her tantrums. Being that I've seen a few myself, *if* they truly haven't improved then I can't be surprised people are over her. She's not a little 13 year old anymore, she needs to grow up if she wants people to help her.

Now WHY doesn't that surprise me one bit? :duh: Still, (assuming the above is true) I can't believe bottoming out at Nationals isn't enough for her to see the light.

I get the weird impression most skaters at that level have a mind of their own, at least somewhat (correct me if I'm off, but I'd be surprised)

Sylvia
06-17-2010, 04:51 PM
A general comment about the competitive skating world based on my observations over the years…

FWIW, there’s a LOT of rink-to-rink “chatter” (specifically, negative gossip) that goes on in the skating world and it’s usually motivated by jealousy/rivalry among skaters, parents, coaches, etc. Yes, there can be kernels of truth in some of the negative rumors/gossip/speculation that goes around about individual skaters, but sometimes there are hidden, or not-so-hidden, agendas at work as well. The skaters who can rise above all the “chatter” (or at least are able to deal with it and block it out so it doesn’t affect them negatively) and prove themselves in competition when it counts are usually the ones that have a better chance of long-term success in this sport.

RD
06-17-2010, 05:11 PM
FWIW, there’s a LOT of rink-to-rink “chatter” (specifically, negative gossip) that goes on in the skating world and it’s usually motivated by jealousy/rivalry among skaters, parents, coaches, etc. Yes, there can be kernels of truth in some of the negative rumors/gossip/speculation that goes around about individual skaters, but sometimes there are hidden, or not-so-hidden, agendas at work as well.

Doesn't surprise me either...


The skaters who can rise above all the “chatter” (or at least are able to deal with it and block it out so it doesn’t affect them negatively) and prove themselves in competition when it counts are usually the ones that have a better chance of long-term success in this sport.

Must be a tough thing to do if they really must deal with this stuff on a daily basis. It's one thing to stay away from the skating forums, but often times rumors get spread ON the forums based on what's supposedly said "in the field" so to speak.

UGG
06-17-2010, 09:26 PM
CZFAN over at GoldenSkate has posted a link with Caroline's blogs. She seems mostly positive about her training, and other skaters. She even praises Mirai. If there is any bitchiness, she hides it well. :D

http://fanzone.att.net/teamusa/athlete/caroline-zhang

I dont see where she praised Mirai. All I saw was that she wrote she was 1st in the short program after worlds on her blog about the world championships.

Polymer Bob
06-17-2010, 09:57 PM
I dont see where she praised Mirai. All I saw was that she wrote she was 1st in the short program after worlds on her blog about the world championships.

"In the short program I was so happy the American ladies did well. Mirai Nagasu was in first place after a clean program."

I suppose somebody could take this a couple of different ways.

pinky166
06-17-2010, 10:00 PM
I dont see where she praised Mirai. All I saw was that she wrote she was 1st in the short program after worlds on her blog about the world championships.

I think just the fact that she isn't extremely jealous of Mirai is pretty impressive. I mean, those two girls have been each other's biggest competition until recently, when Mirai pulled way ahead, and they are still good friends through all of it. That can't be easy.

RD
06-18-2010, 01:05 AM
I think just the fact that she isn't extremely jealous of Mirai is pretty impressive. I mean, those two girls have been each other's biggest competition until recently, when Mirai pulled way ahead, and they are still good friends through all of it. That can't be easy.

What you say on a public blog is one thing.

What you say behind closed doors - another. ;)

Still, there was some on-camera evidence that the two were on friendly terms, at least, which is good.

pinky166
06-18-2010, 04:11 AM
What you say on a public blog is one thing.

What you say behind closed doors - another. ;)

Still, there was some on-camera evidence that the two were on friendly terms, at least, which is good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEpXfugukE This is from Skate Canada last fall, their friendship seems to be pretty genuine. Granted, this was before Mirai had her "breakthrough", but she still did a lot better than Caroline at this competition and it's nice to see the two girls comfort one another.

jjane45
06-18-2010, 05:20 AM
Ugh the off-season... Wish there are rink reports........................ :)