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DORISPULASKI
08-13-2010, 03:47 AM
I hope to heck they don't use cha cha. In 1981, the OSP was cha cha, and they were all pretty bad, even Torvill & Dean, who won the OSP that year. It doesn't translate very well to the ice because of the retrograde steps. Any other Latin dance would be good, although I'd prefer Merengue, I think. Perhaps to the Merengue dances in My Blue Heaven. :)

literaryfreak
08-13-2010, 04:54 AM
I can't help thinking that Scott is a bit of a rascal and though he said there was no great secret, he managed to get off without saying anything much..and the actual program may be "Latin" by only the most tenuous connection..or some such other twist.

Yeah, I wasn't completely sure that Scott wasn't joking/being sarcastic when he said it would be a waltz SD and Latin FD, given how much he likes to joke around.

The quote seemed far too nonchalant, I'm wondering if there's a twist somewhere in here too.

DORISPULASKI
08-13-2010, 07:34 AM
Well, the music may be very interesting music but have a Latin beat...not all Latin is boring.

For example, would you call Wyclef Jean and Shakira singing Hips Don't Lie as Latin? (I would, even though part of it is rap) but it wouldn't be either boring or typical S/Z.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ec83Qj2UE

Calling something like that Latin could be Scott's little joke.

As to waltz in the SC, of course, the GW has to be in there!

However, I'm wondering whether they will have an Alicia Keyes song like C&P (they have Fallin) and about 7 other teams? The Canadian teams so often seem to be doing their OD's to similar music. In 2008, the top teams all had Gypsy and in 2010, the top teams all had Flamenco :)

Pratfall
08-13-2010, 08:25 AM
/\ Now,that was completely weird. What was with my country ? I took the charitable view and told myself they were just chanelling the same source,:rolleyes: but it was beyond bizarre.

I , too, hope it's not Cha Cha ..but really, there's plenty to choose from.And in trying to follow what they achieved last season, I think Z/S are too clever to give them a standard , run-of the-mill Latin program.

I think they'll be doing everything they can to have their two top teams just blow us away.

The former belly dancer in me has to tell you "Hips don't Lie" has a definite Middle Eastern rhythm...but it's still a good point.:D

Japanfan
08-13-2010, 08:41 AM
I think Virtue and Moir can deliver a brilliant Latin FD, regardless of the particular type of Latin music they choose.

But I'm a bit disappointed, I had hoped they would attempt an edgy program, like the PF - I too regret that they never skated that program to its potential.

However I'm thrilled that the SD will include the GW and look forward to it immensely.

pani
08-13-2010, 09:10 AM
Calling something like that Latin could be Scott's little joke.

It will be really greate, if he was joking about music for FD, because he was joking about SD music. But Latina is truth Igor love and he couldnt use it during 4 years - thats time for it :D

DORISPULASKI
08-13-2010, 01:43 PM
pani, that's my fear, but I'm trying to stay positive about it.

(I do think Hips Don't Lie would make some team a cool FD though :) )

sap5
08-13-2010, 01:43 PM
Well, the music may be very interesting music but have a Latin beat...not all Latin is boring.

For example, would you call Wyclef Jean and Shakira singing Hips Don't Lie as Latin? (I would, even though part of it is rap) but it wouldn't be either boring or typical S/Z.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ec83Qj2UE



Along those lines, I've wanted them to skate to Shakira's "La Tortura" for quite a while. It's reggaeton, which counts as Latin, doesn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQKF_aW4W6U

Realistically, I don't know how something like this would work as an FD, but it sure would be fun.

mia joy
08-13-2010, 06:13 PM
For example, would you call Wyclef Jean and Shakira singing Hips Don't Lie as Latin? (I would, even though part of it is rap) but it wouldn't be either boring or typical S/Z.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ec83Qj2UE


I always prefered the original version of this song from Dirty Dancing - Dance like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV2IvLYPfxs

also I think this version could be better for a skating program, even though the whole idea is totally crazy, unless we're talking about an exhibition dance ;)

DORISPULASKI
08-13-2010, 06:51 PM
I find the female voice a little lacking in the movie version. Shakira is a lot hotter--but the yelling of Shakira Shakira in her version, I could do without.

I like the change from rap to whatever it is Shakira is doing (Mid east belly dance? conga? whatever) and it satisfies a change of music requiremen. But what I really wanted to do was illustrate that there are non boring ways to do an FD that someone could loosely describe as "Latin".

Here's another one-and it works well with skating ;) I think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcLVLNpVvrQ

I think it's reggaeton?

pani
08-13-2010, 07:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcLVLNpVvrQ

I think it's reggaeton?

O, really funny music. Is this Latin music or hip-hop?

DORISPULASKI
08-13-2010, 07:49 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggaeton


Reggaeton
Stylistic origins Dancehall - Rap - Reggae en Español - Reggae- Hip Hop - Latin music
Cultural origins Late 1970s/early 1980s Panama, late 1980s Puerto Rico
Typical instruments Dem Bow (rhythm) - Sampler - Bass - Synthesizer - Drum machine
Mainstream popularity From mid-1990s in Puerto Rico, worldwide beginning around 2004.
Subgenres
Bachateo - Salsaton - Malianteo - Cubaton - Romantikeo - Cumbiaton - Alternative reggaeton - Electro-Flow
Regional scenes
Puerto Rico - Dominican Republic - Panama - Cuba - Honduras - Colombia - Venezuela - United States - Spain - Japan - México - Chile
Other topics
Oye Mi Canto - Gasolina - LunyTunes - Machete Music - Perreo - Tempo

Reggaeton (pronounced /ˌrɛɡeɪˈtoʊn/; also spelled reggaetón, and known as reguetón and reggaetón in Spanish) is a form of urban music that became popular with Latin American youth in the early 1990s. After its mainstream exposure in 2004, it spread to North American, European and Asian audiences. Reggaeton's predecessor originated in Panama as reggae en español. After the music's gradual exposure and commercial packaging Puerto Rico, it eventually evolved into a new musical style known as reggaeton.[1] Reggaeton blends West-Indian music influences of reggae and dancehall with those of Latin America, such as bomba, plena, salsa, merengue, latin pop, cumbia and bachata as well as that of hip hop,

frisette70
08-13-2010, 07:55 PM
I'm hoping for a mambo or a samba.:cool: Maybe someting like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=Rk0Ak4KhwAE&feature=related

Pratfall
08-13-2010, 08:00 PM
;): Abt -again, Middle Eastern rhythm blended in..all the 2/4 & 4/4 ones cross over really well, it's just a matter of where the accent is placed ( often on the 2/4 instead of the 1/3 and how many of the "and" beats are picked up ).. adds a bit of spice. I think this is what gives Shakira's "Hips don't Lie" that extra oomph. Ni-i-i-ce...

No one else had posted in the interim , so I'll just jump back in... Aha! this has been an education ( thanks, Doris, i really wasn't up on reggaeton..)..So, reggaeton seems to be a real conglomeration by now..That Abt thing definitely uses not only M-E rhythm but (I believe) instruments,as well , likewise Shakira.. but that seems not to be universal in the examples I checked out. Others seem definitely latin influenced without the M-E overlay...(I wonder how much of that Shakira is directly responsible for)...Is hip-hop the real unifier here...Anyway it provides a lot of leeway... where to next, I wonder..

maggylyn
08-13-2010, 09:39 PM
...Anyway it provides a lot of leeway... where to next, I wonder..


It does seem to be too soon to decide that Latin music means pedestrian or overused.

V/M haven't disappointed me so far; I don't expect this coming season to be an exception.