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mishieru07
03-19-2010, 01:51 PM
Even though I've been following them since the start of their career, I still feel like they've barely scratched the surface of what they're capable of doing, so I'd be extremely disappointed to see them retire. I almost hope Meryl & Charlie win Worlds, just so V&M feel like they have one more goal to stick around for. :confused: :slinkaway

I've followed them for 3 years and I feel the same. They're capable of so much more (bring back the voids!). They (and Marlie) could well become legends in ice dancing if they continue in the same vein. I can see them dominating the entire quad leading to Sochi (along with I/K).

I understand their rationale but I selfishly hope they'll stay on. It's been one heck of a journey as a fan and I don't want to hop off yet! That said, it's not that they're definitely retiring; they're just undecided. I have my fingers crossed that they will continue and have an epic battle with Marlie.

I won't mind Marlie winning Worlds; they're amazing and I love them too (how fab is their OD?). If Marlie win, I can see V/M sticking around for another season to get a World title. I also think that SC will try to convince them to stay. Without V/M, they definitely can't secure 3 spots, maybe not even 2 depending on how C/P fare.

C'mon V/M; don't pull a Hughes or Lipinski! Don't go!

Anyway, w.r.t Worlds, Universal Sports cannot be accessed outside of the US right? Is skatebuzz telecasting Worlds?

TanithandBenFan
03-19-2010, 02:00 PM
What for example he could doing without education? His friend Charlie will finished colladge in this spring and he will skate in next season.

Not sure if that's what you meant, but Charlie isn't graduating this spring. He and Meryl both still have a few semesters left of college.

Rafter
03-19-2010, 02:05 PM
Another article:

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/steve_buffery/2010/03/19/13285161.html

Buffery makes a good point that if they win worlds, there's nothing left for them to accomplish. I don't see V&M staying around for 4 more years, with the next Olympics in Russia, it will be hard to repeart. But I'd love to see them do a couple of more years just to experiment with different styles in the FD.

Not that I've ever felt that V&M were in it for the money, but if they have sponsors and endorsement deals knocking at their door, I would suspect a lot of companies signing them on will only do so if they stay in eligible competition.

Rafter
03-19-2010, 02:15 PM
I'm also wondering if V&M are playing a bit coy about this in the hopes that Skate Canada will support them more financially or help them find sponsors. Strictly speculation.

There were a lot of rumours after either the 1998 Olympics that Skate Canada paid money (i.e. $100,000 each) to Stojko and Bourne & Kraatz to stay in competition.

Rafter
03-19-2010, 02:30 PM
Here's a Q&A interview with V&M that looks like it was done before the Olympics. It's from a local SWO magazine.

http://www.trulifemagazine.ca/article/show/tessa-virtue-scott-moir/

I see where Tessa gets her keen interest in education - she says her mom went back to school when Tessa was young and got an MBA.

shutterbug
03-19-2010, 03:09 PM
I'm also wondering if V&M are playing a bit coy about this in the hopes that Skate Canada will support them more financially or help them find sponsors. Strictly speculation.

There were a lot of rumours after either the 1998 Olympics that Skate Canada paid money (i.e. $100,000 each) to Stojko and Bourne & Kraatz to stay in competition.

Not likely to happen. Skate Canada doesn't have that kind of money anymore.

Ajax
03-19-2010, 03:59 PM
Buffery makes a good point that if they win worlds, there's nothing left for them to accomplish. I don't see V&M staying around for 4 more years, with the next Olympics in Russia, it will be hard to repeart. But I'd love to see them do a couple of more years just to experiment with different styles in the FD.

But they do have tons to accomplish. Now that they have the big title, they can let go of all pressure and take all the risks they want in their program choice/choreo. They have the potential to be true legends, in the vein of T&D, who let's not forget are not remembered primarily because they were Olympic champions but because they always skated incredibly choreographed programs that changed the face of icedancing forever. CoP needs a team like that, a team who can show that it's possible to transcend all the rules and capture people's imaginations, and V&M have the potential to be that team by sticking around a couple more years.

pani
03-19-2010, 04:41 PM
Here's a Q&A interview with V&M that looks like it was done before the Olympics. It's from a local SWO magazine.

http://www.trulifemagazine.ca/article/show/tessa-virtue-scott-moir/
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I like Tessas words: I would tell any young person to find his or her passion and pursue it! If the passion comes from within then you can find joy and fulfillment in what you do!
I think she need to find this passion and find joi in new programs, new elements.
I think they will retried, but hope they will skate in shows.
Maybe it was really hard for them to skate all this years, if they every year think, they must retried and try find new motivation. For me if you did, what you love to do - its main motivation to work.
Maybe D-W really love there work, when Tessa and Scott push thereselvs hard to represent Canada at OG.
Hope they will find there reall passion in life and will made, what they want to to do and will be happy :)
Its hard for me to think, that i will see there last perfomance in compertition in few days. But hope they will skate greate!

Judy
03-19-2010, 07:34 PM
This is not a surprise .. they had the perfect Olympics and if they achieve a world title that will cap off an amazing year obviously. But it also changes everything including goals and the what do we do next .. winning an Olympic gold medal is life changing and most people would take some time to sit down and evaluate after such a whirlwind year.

BellaSTRARSSA!
03-19-2010, 08:25 PM
Well, I'm still hoping V&M win............being 2nd at Worlds this year would just be anticlimactic for everyone. I don't think their going to retire any time soon. They both love skating and even if it's just in shows, but I still think they'll be competing for a little while yet...............I sure hope I'm right.

ITA. I totally understand wanting them to stick around, but no matter what I want them to end this season on a strong note.

ice.dance.girl
03-19-2010, 11:05 PM
I'd totally understand if V&M would retire, but I think it would set lots of young skaters under pressure. A couple of years ago it was totally okay if teams stayed in for a long time and now everyone is even saying that Tanith and Ben are already "too old". Not everyone is as lucky as them and teams up at a really young age. Even though I might be a young skater I thought it was totally refreshing to see D&S at the Olympics. There is a difference between young teams such as V&M and D&W and grown ups.I don't think that it is a good trend that everyone is getting younger. Personally, I don't wanna see only teens competing at the world level. The true strength of a skater is to be good even when they're older.

pani
03-19-2010, 11:23 PM
Now there a lot off teams, who used COP really good. D-W will 27-26 in Sochi - not very young and a lot off people think they will win and could be legend. (i agree - if the will win 4 WCh and OG it will be cool).
At this OG V-M skated much better, then older teams, but at next competition, at next OG older teams could skate better, then V-M. I dont think this is problem.
At all i dont like, that all journalists talk, thet they are so long skating together. All skaters start at 4-6, but not all could find patner in young age. I dont think ats important- they are young and they need to Canada team at least on 2 seasons - i dont think C-P, W-P will be strong enouf to take medal in next season at WCh.

Carmen Ovsiannikov
03-20-2010, 01:43 AM
..... , CoP needs a team like that, a team who can show that it's possible to transcend all the rules and capture people's imaginations and V&M have the potential to be that team by sticking around a couple more years.

Actually CoP did have two such teams, DelShoes and DenStavs but both are now retired. Well, make that three if you include the Kerr's who will also be gone after this season.

I do agree with you in regards to V&M. While they are peaking technically, they could help push the sport artistically. In the past I have argued that CoP isn't ruining the artistry in skating but after watching many of the programs this season I'm beginning to agree. Perhaps the only things that made me feel differently was that up until this season there were so many teams left over from the 6.0 era who were creating excellent programs inspite of the rules. Since many teams follow the lead of whomever the lead team is, I'd like to see V&M skate for two more years to bring back more creative choreography. Of course it depends on what direction the ISU wants the sport to go in.

We also still have P&B who despite the rules will most likely continue on in the French tradition of being creative and voidy.

ice.dance.girl, I agree about the perception of age in icedance (and pairs) also changing under CoP. The length of eligible careers for pair and dance teams is also changing and I admit that these are two changes I don't particularly care for.

Even if Tessa and Scott came right out and said they wanted to do another four years there seems to be the sentiment that "you had your turn so move out of the way for another team." I was surprised at how many people this season brought up the ages of B&A as being "too old." Not so long ago, a team like B&A could have easily done another four years and been considered right in line age wise. I remember when skating was broadcast on ESPN Susie Wynne used to point out that with the nature of icedance and needing a seasoned partnership, most dancers didn't peak until their late twenties or early thirties.

If they had competed among the new generation of skaters, I can't imagine that teams such as D&V, K&P or even W&L would have been allowed the longevity they had in their eligible careers.

I really don't expect V&M to stick around for Sochi but I wish for another year (at least) just to see them push themselves artistically. I will like everyone else though respect whatever their final decision is.

maggylyn
03-20-2010, 03:33 AM
They're very smart not to let themselves be pushed around by the pressure of all these questions regarding their future. It seems so obvious - well, duh, we just won the Olympics, we need time to think - it's incredible to think that they're supposed to just "know" right now what comes next.

Even though I'm a selfish fan and I'd love to see them continue skating competitively, I think all their answers to date have been understandable.

Some skaters have been able to take time off and come back strong (G/G) but not others (Witt, Boitano). They'll have to think about it very carefully (if indeed that's the direction they're thinking), there are never any guarantees.

Carmen Ovsiannikov
03-20-2010, 05:49 AM
It wasn't my intention to suggest that Tessa and Scott should hold a press conference tomorrow and tell everyone what their plans are post Worlds. I agree that it is far too soon for that and I even wonder if they've had a chance to really think about it with all the events they have been attending along with the interviews accompanied with photo shoots.

We probably won't hear anything until well into the off season when new programs are being created.

I admit to being a selfish fan and wanting another four years but I'll be patient and give V&M a chance to finish this season, unwind and take a little time for themselves.

I'm also one of those who is rooting for V&M to cap off their season with their first (possibly only) World title. I'm not a believer in skaters or teams having their "turn" to win. IMO, just as in Vancouver, if/when (:P) V&M put forth three solid performances (I'm not expecting them to be able to duplicate the aura they created in Vancouver) then I want them to be crowned World Champions.