Glee: (just like) starting over...

[IceJunkie]

IIRC, the entire cast is in their twenties. They're all going to look too old to play 14-18 year olds when you put them next to real teenagers.

But in the show, Lea's character is revealed to have just turned 15. That's a bit of a stretch.

[Theatregirl1122]

IIRC, the entire cast is in their twenties. They're all going to look too old to play 14-18 year olds when you put them next to real teenagers.


Yes, I'm pretty sure that Chris Colfer (Kurt) is the youngest of the main actors and he just turned 20. So he was an actual teenager while filming season 1 (Barely). Althought Glee is still probably doing better than most of the ABC family shows about High School kids. Like Secret Life of the American Teenager and Pretty Little Liars.

[LadyGray]

Because, of course, the only opinion allowed is the excited and the positive one, and oh dear, how would anyone dare to have a different one.

Yes, of course, that is *exactly* what I meant by my post. If I don't like the way you expressed your opinion I must not believe in allowing for differing opinions.

[essence_of_soy]

Yes, of course, that is *exactly* what I meant by my post. If I don't like the way you expressed your opinion I must not believe in allowing for differing opinions.

I'm with you, LadyGray.

It's quite clear from the thead's title (and most of the posts) that this is an appreciation thread.

Normally I find TV too passive. So, Glee is one of the few shows I'll actually sit down and watch these days. It really takes you everywhere.

Some people just suffer from IBS (Irritable B**** Syndrome), I guess.

Love them and leave them, I say.

[allezfred]

It's quite clear from the thead's title (and most of the posts) that this is an appreciation thread.


It is? :confused:

I really like Glee (sorry TAHbKA ;) ), but if some else doesn't like it it doesn't bother me if they say so.

[LadyGray]

It is? :confused:

I really like Glee (sorry TAHbKA ;) ), but if some else doesn't like it it doesn't bother me if they say so.

I'm normally not bothered by anyone saying they don't like something, either. There have been people in this thread expressing their dislike for certain aspects of the show (Finn's singing/dancing, Rachel's facial expressions, the holey plots of some of the episodes, etc.). TAHbKA's was quite OTT, though, I think.

[Norlite]

TAHbKA's was quite OTT, though, I think.


All she said was it was one of the most awful shows she's ever seen. Maybe she doesn't watch a lot of television? :saint:


It's not like she's one of those fools who come into a TV thread and says something like :drama:


:drama: "I don't even own a television machine" :drama:

[TAHbKA]

All she said was it was one of the most awful shows she's ever seen. Maybe she doesn't watch a lot of television? :saint:


It's not like she's one of those fools who come into a TV thread and says something like :drama:

:drama: "I don't even own a television machine" :drama:

(:drama: I don't even own a television machine, someone gave me a disk with the first 12 episodes and I watched the rest online" :drama: :) )

On a slightly more serious note: I fail to understand what all the gushing is about. From where I sit (stand?) this TV show should be about the plot/music/dancing/actors. So where does Glee come into that?

Don't think I need to elucidate on the plot - even those who claim to love it admit there is no actual plot and the story lines hardly exist.

Dancing - when done by Morrison or McHale it was not bad at all, but the rest - I don't see why is it dancing to begin with. They all do exactly the same moves all the time (sometimes to the same rhythm sometimes not). Back to Morrison - half of his dancing is done by his behind and ever sing the 8th episode I was expecting his behind to have a role of it's own. It did in the 21st episode and did a far better role acting than the rest of Morrison. Can it be nominated separately from Morrison to a supporting actor?.

Singing - "Defying Gravity" by Colfer if brilliant. As said, stuff that Morrison sings is between mediocre to great. As for the rest - I strongly dislike that kind of singing. Guess I shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the Broadway. It sounds as if they were shouting instead of singing all the time! May be it works on the stage, but IMHO it doesn't work on the tape!

Which, basically leaves 1 great song, 5-6 not bad song, a couple of not bad looking and not terribly moving actors with 2 main character who irritate the hell out of me ("Rachel" and "Finn") that are acting in something plotless.

So unless I find a hot actor to :swoon: (and afraid I haven't found anyone in this show) what is there for me to like?

[michiruwater]

Apparently nothing. So... don't watch :P It's pretty simply. Unless you're watching because you enjoy hating it, and, hey, I've seen all the Twilight films for that reason.

I like the singing. A lot. And there's a variety of voices -Rachel is pure Broadway, Mercedes has a fantastic R&B voice, Kurt has a wonderful male countertenor, Quinn just sounds like a weak pop star which has its merits in some of the songs she sings, Santana ended up having a fantastic voice out of nowhere, Puck sounds like a regular male pop singer, Artie has a very singular voice... Finn kind of sucks but occasionally he is able to pull off a song really well (Jessie's Girl was quite good, I thought).

So, while you can come here and say the music sucks and it sounds like shouting all the time (really???), I don't see anyone else agreeing. The music is generally critically acclaimed and the best part of the show (except when Matthew Morrison tries to rap. What the hell.)

The dancing is spread amongst a bunch of actors that aren't all great at it. Which is fine for me when they're playing a high school glee club - not everyone should be. It's rare to find a Brittany or Mike Chang in a school, and this glee club has both (I guess you didn't notice those two dancing?). They certainly don't do the same moves. I really don't see what you're seeing. Hell, in My Life Would Suck Without You they spent a song giving shout outs to the variety of moves they'd done through the season thus far.

And I've never seen anyone say that there's "no actual plot and the story lines hardly exist." There are certainly several plots. Yeah, sometimes the individual episodes have plots that are silly or hard to take and they clearly just utilized them to use certain songs. And some of the plots used were just attention-grabbing, probably picked first to try to get an audience and then not easily discarded, like the stupid pregnancy storylines. But it's certainly not a plotless show.

I mean, obviously you're not seeing what so many are seeing and this post was probably pointless. It baffles me a little that you can watch this amazingly talented cast and get pretty much nothing out of their oodles of various talents, even if you thought the show itself was idiotic and the characters stereotypes and the plotlines inane, which I would understand. But just completely hating the music itself is surprising to me. I mean, yeah, if you hate pop/rock/broadway(/country/classics/everything else they've done) music, then yeah, you won't like Glee. That should be obvious.

[Orable]

I'll be honest and say that I'm not a fan of Broadway, either. Musicals sort of creep me out (which is funny for some reason, to my colleague, the current Reverend and former NYC stage actor). OTOH, Jonathan Groff is dreamy :swoon: and imo, a quite talented singer, so thank you Glee for bringing him to my small screen :cheer:

My stupid colleague had worked with JG before and totally burst my bubble when he informed me of his sexual orientation :blah:

[pollyanna]

(:drama: I don't even own a television machine, someone gave me a disk with the first 12 episodes and I watched the rest online" :drama: :) )

On a slightly more serious note: I fail to understand what all the gushing is about. From where I sit (stand?) this TV show should be about the plot/music/dancing/actors. So where does Glee come into that?

IMO, this show is not about plot so much. It's the music, the camp and the humor. Sue Sylvester and her "that's how Sue "C's" it." The caning commentary had me rolling. Brittany and her off-the-cuff comments - like the shark comment. :rofl: And then suddenly there are the verklempt moments, like Sue and her sister or Kurt and his Dad. Some of the show I don't care for - I didn't like the whole Terri and the fake pregnancy storyline. Some of the show I really like - like tackling the whole high school misfit thing - wouldn't have seen TV like that when I was in high school. So bottom line for me, I love the music, the humor and the occasional tears. IMO Lynch and Colfer are effin' brilliant. YMMV, and that's cool.

[Bev Johnston]

So unless I find a hot actor to :swoon: (and afraid I haven't found anyone in this show) what is there for me to like?

Have you SEEN Mike Chang??? :swoon:

[lmarie086]

Have you SEEN Mike Chang??? :swoon:

Haha, I can't wait until I get to see him again! :swoon:

michiruwater, that was a great post. ITA on every note.

[VIETgrlTerifa]

I really do think that Glee is today's television version of theatre of the absurd. There's incredibly absurdity in that show that the audience is expected to accept (much like Absolutely Fabulous was but AbFab was much more in-your-face about their comedy).

The whole Finn believing that he got Quinn pregnant through swimming sperm in a hot tub was about two things. One, that Finn really is that naive and stupid though he has survival skills and knows his strengths (like when he manipulated Rachel to rejoin Glee Club) and two, it was a satirical joke on all the schools out there (and people) who believe in abstinence-only education. Believe me, in the U.S. there is still a relevant and rampant debate how sex education. The victims of the bickering back-and-forth are the hormonal students who don't know what to believe.

BTW, Rachel (Lea Michel)'s voice isn't really pure Broadway or all-Broadway. She tends to oversing her songs, which I think make sense for the character of Rachel who desperately wants to impress people and show them what she can do. It's more of a new style that came out after Idina Menzel and Wicked where now people think that screaming on the top of your lungs and belting out all the time is the best way to sing. There are a lot of fans in the Broadway community who hate that trend and feel that not only does it kill nuance and character interpretation, but it destroys voices in the long-run.

I think Broadway-singing is supposed to be about honing in on individual singers' uniqueness and having them adapt them for the character and for the stage. It's not all about singing so loud that the 200th row in a 100 row theater can hear you. Take a look at Chenoweth, for example. She is very Broadway, but she's also unique in her Baptist Church/Country music upbringing. She still hangs on to her country roots but she adds in formal vocal technique and Broadway stageyness (stage projection, hitting the high notes, showing off a bit...well in her case, she tends to do that a lot) that makes her great for the stage (though she has her detractors as well).

[LuckyCharm]

Have you SEEN Mike Chang??? :swoon:

Haha, I can't wait until I get to see him again! :swoon:

Has anyone posted this before? If you love Mike Chang and dogs, this might be too much for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX9LQu4lOeE