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Allskate
01-13-2010, 06:44 AM
I'm not a Conan fan at all, but I agree with him on this and I don't think Jay comes off looking so good.

Conan did his time in the after midnight spot for years, giving up alternative earlier shows elsewhere. That helped with Jay's ratings by keeping down the competition, and now NBC has screwed him over. If Jay wanted to come back at 11:30, he should have gone to Fox.

genevieve
01-13-2010, 08:52 AM
oh PML Craig Ferguson just called NBC "lying rat bastards" on his show :rofl:

soxxy
01-13-2010, 04:07 PM
I'm not a Conan fan at all, but I agree with him on this and I don't think Jay comes off looking so good.


Jay may be walking away from NBC as well.

http://www.popeater.com/2010/01/13/jay-leno-leaving-nbc/?icid=main|search3|dl3|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pope ater.com%2F2010%2F01%2F13%2Fjay-leno-leaving-nbc%2F

I'd find it odd if Jay thought he could just waltz back into his old time slot without a *real and sincere* sign of approval from Conan.

I'm guessing NBC will be trying to work this thing out to both their satisfaction during the Olympics. (NBC, don't mess with the Olympics!)

deltask8er
01-13-2010, 04:42 PM
OMG, did you see Jimmy Kimmel act and look like Jay Leno throughout his entire show?!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMgPPJZfsCM

:rofl: :EVILLE: :P :respec:


I saw the first half of the Tonight Show, too. Conan's jokes and timing were on fire! :kickass:

The Village Idiot
01-13-2010, 04:48 PM
OMG, did you see Jimmy Kimmel act and look like Jay Leno throughout his entire show?!
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:!!!

laurenjm
01-13-2010, 05:03 PM
This just has got to make you chuckle! :lol:

deltask8er
01-13-2010, 05:22 PM
And I fell asleep by the time this happened on Kimmel. The first guest pretended to be Conan.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b161850_kimmel_channels_leno_inadvertently.html

Times have changed since they appeared on each other's shows during the writer's strike (because...they had nothing else to do?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMcEJUp1YsA

And I'm surprised Conan's clips are available at the official web site. I was expecting an error message :2faced: .

http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/

Allskate
01-13-2010, 05:26 PM
All the late night hosts are having a field day with this. Kimmel was so funny as Jay.

This has got to be personal for Letterman given that NBC led him on for years, making him think that he would get the Tonight Show, thereby keeping him at the 12:30 spot. He's clearly getting a kick out of seeing NBC struggle with the mess they've made.

manleywoman
01-13-2010, 06:31 PM
All the late night hosts are having a field day with this. Kimmel was so funny as Jay.

This has got to be personal for Letterman given that NBC led him on for years, making him think that he would get the Tonight Show, thereby keeping him at the 12:30 spot. He's clearly getting a kick out of seeing NBC struggle with the mess they've made.

Indeed, though I think Letterman's happy it happened so he could be out of the negative spotlight as well.

It's crazy to just ask Conan to step aside. Blegh

orbitz
01-13-2010, 09:01 PM
Article on why the 11:30pm timeslot doesn't matter.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/techtonicshifts/archive/2010/01/13/conan-s-enemy-isn-t-the-11-35-slot-it-s-any-time-slot.aspx



the floppy-haired goofball should realize that watching a show at its original time is obsolete. Watching Saturday Night Live live on Saturday night is the TV equivalent of churning butter. Tools have been invented to save you the labor! If one of the sketches is funny and worth your time, you will hear about it on Twitter or Facebook or even just e-mail. Trust your social network. The same is true of the late-night talk shows. It hasn't really been necessary to watch Conan or Letterman live for years.

deltask8er
01-14-2010, 03:12 AM
"He will tape today. It'll be new," the spokesperson said.

Scheduled guests include Ricky Gervais, Bryce Dallas Howard and comedian Whitney Cummings.

The NBC spokesperson did not have further information regarding O'Brien's plans or his negotiations with the network. According to The New York Times, O'Brien would leave The Tonight Show after reaching a financial settlement with the network.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Conan-OBrien-Tape-1013644.aspx


NBC has also made it clear that it does not believe it breached Mr. O’Brien’s contract in any way because it offered him the chance to continue on “Tonight.” NBC executives said that Mr. O’Brien’s contract did not include any language that guaranteed the show had to begin at 11:35 p.m.

The counterargument from Mr. O’Brien’s representatives has been that no such language was necessary in this case because “The Tonight Show” has followed the late local news in cities across America for 60 years.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/13/business/media/13conan.html


Mr. O’Brien’s future could also be complicated by how his contract is settled. Even if NBC settles with him, it could enforce a clause that keeps him off television for a year or more.

mpal2
01-14-2010, 03:15 AM
Mr. O’Brien’s future could also be complicated by how his contract is settled. Even if NBC settles with him, it could enforce a clause that keeps him off television for a year or more.

Does NBC really want to have even more bad press on their hands for pulling a stupid stunt like that?

deltask8er
01-14-2010, 03:28 AM
Does NBC really want to have even more bad press on their hands for pulling a stupid stunt like that?

Aside from the fact that we already know how clueless NBC executives are, time off for on-air talent moving from one network/station to another is pretty standard. Although a year seems like a lot. 6 months is the norm. Even Letterman stayed off the air for a few months between NBC and CBS.

http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2000/01/nocompete_claus.html

But things might be changing for the average TV employee, though:


On the heels of a California State Supreme Court ruling banning employer-imposed non-compete clauses, New York state is banning the clauses by law in broadcast contracts. Governor David Paterson has signed the “Broadcast Employees Freedom To Work Act”. The American Federation of Television and Radio Artists says this law will keep trusted broadcasters, including journalists, in their home towns. The New York State AFL-CIO joined AFTRA in a push to get the new law passed in New York.

http://www.laborradio.org/node/9179

No idea which labor union O'Brien is a member of, if any.


Non-compete clauses have already been banned in Washington, D.C., Connecticut, Arizona, Maine, and Massachusetts.

OTOH, since he will get a significant severance package :bribe: , his lawyers will probably compromise with NBC on the amount of time he must not work for another network in order to keep that severance money flowing to him.


ETA: Letterman's take on the whole mess (he mentions non-compete clause)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A98_-EeXS_I

Coco
01-14-2010, 06:13 AM
Honestly, I think Conan's a better fit for Fox, should they want a late night talk show. Didn't he write for the Simpsons for years? That show MADE fox.

On the radio this AM, (I live in Milwaukee), they were comparing Leno and his "I want to retire - no wait, I don't!" to Brett Favre. It was funny :)

soxxy
01-14-2010, 12:28 PM
Honestly, I think Conan's a better fit for Fox, should they want a late night talk show. Didn't he write for the Simpsons for years? That show MADE fox.


IIRC, both Joan Rivers and Arsenio Hall had late-night talk shows on FOX; I don't recall the amount of success they had (obviously, neither is still on the air). I heard a couple of critics musing that Conan could go to FOX and get a jump start on the competition by beginning his show at 11 ET, 10 CT. I say begin your show at the "traditional" time, 11:35pm.