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Lacey
01-10-2010, 11:56 PM
Well, they're saying the plan is for Jay's 35 at 11:30, Conan an hour at midnight, and then Fallon because that is the path of least resistance, fewer lawsuits. We'll see where all of this falls when the dust settles. The shame of it is that they want everyone to agree to the switch right away, when Conan and Fallon should be allowed time to shop around.

mysticchic
01-11-2010, 12:17 AM
I want to thank NBC for this.

Kruss
01-11-2010, 12:28 AM
This just sucks - Leno is the one who made noise about retiring. Plans were made, Conan was named successor, and then Leno changes his mind? Wah wah...he should have stuck to retiring and doing something else.

Sorry, but this sucks for Conan and I wouldn't blame him if he's pissed. If he jumps ship, so do I.

soxxy
01-11-2010, 01:07 AM
This just sucks - Leno is the one who made noise about retiring. Plans were made, Conan was named successor, and then Leno changes his mind? Wah wah...he should have stuck to retiring and doing something else.

Sorry, but this sucks for Conan and I wouldn't blame him if he's pissed. If he jumps ship, so do I.

Not defending Leno or NBC at all, but something had to be done to satisfy the affiliates; they count on a big audience for their 11 p.m. newscasts and something had to be done. I'm surprised the "experiment" lasted this long, frankly.

missflick
01-11-2010, 02:48 AM
The good news is that NBC is calling for more scripted dramas/comedies/dramedies. Which hopefully, it they are good and are successes, becomes a trend. So we will see fewer stupid reality shows and lame talk shows.

JJH
01-11-2010, 09:33 AM
I'm just happy that Leno is no longer clogging up prime time.

Andora
01-11-2010, 04:06 PM
Craig Fergusson is the best, imho. He even had a hilarious clip talking about the whole situation, culminating with "but we were the worst at the same time, every day of the week." :lol: Love him, and hope he moves on to bigger and better things in the future.

Conan would be great on Comedy, I bet. When he, Colbert and Stewart did their writers' strike bit, I was impressed. It seemed to fit. He could be the non-political hour. :P


The good news is that NBC is calling for more scripted dramas/comedies/dramedies. Which hopefully, it they are good and are successes, becomes a trend. So we will see fewer stupid reality shows and lame talk shows.

I agree 100%. The promising Southland was bumped from the network to make room for Jay. I was suddenly glad none of my favourite shows were on NBC. What happened to the peacock? Didn't they rule evening television once upon a time? Wasn't Friends on here? Wasn't it a slightly edgy, more mature option to Disney's ABC?


I've never been able to tolerate Conan - reminds me of too many frat boys I've known.

I've never heard Conan likened to a frat boy. :lol: I wish I'd gone to your post secondary institution, then, as the frat boys I've known weren't that clever. :P But it does show that Conan's not the general audience pleaser NBC hoped he'd be, which I'm not too surprised about.

Rex
01-11-2010, 08:19 PM
I agree 100%. The promising Southland was bumped from the network to make room for Jay.

I thought TNT picked up Southland. I hope so, 'cause I lurve Regina King; she deserves a good show.

loopey
01-11-2010, 09:11 PM
It's unfortunate that they feel the need to "demote" Jay to monologue-only.
He handles guests better than any of the others.

NBC should admit that this was a hare-brained idea; and return to the old-schedule, with generous "incentives", if necessary.
It is ridiculous that they don't seem to have had a "contingency plan" in place to address the possible failure of the "grand experiment".

I have to agree with this post. Jay's monologue is good, but so are his interviews.

IMO, NBC is trying to "have it's cake and eat it too"! So if Conan could not deliver the ratings they needed, then just let him go (and pay the contract penalty) or put him back in his old slot (and pay the contract penalty).

This sounds like one of those ridiculous comprimises where trying to make everyone happy and actually no one is happy. I doubt Jay will be happy just doing monologues, I doubt Conan wants to start later, and the public ratings support Jay more than Conan, so changing him to monologue only is not likely to make them happy either. Sounds like everyone loses. JMO.

Anita18
01-11-2010, 09:14 PM
I thought TNT picked up Southland. I hope so, 'cause I lurve Regina King; she deserves a good show.
They did.

It's really interesting seeing the various reactions from different internet-scapes. All of the younger generation-based (like my age and younger) forums and blogs I've seen are all, "Bump Leno! Keep Conan!" while it's completely the opposite for older-skewing places. :lol:

Now if only they could figure out a good time slot to take advantage of that...

Latte
01-11-2010, 09:39 PM
I think Jay will walk. He has made it very clear that he is not happy with what is going on. There are rumors that he is considering a offer from Fox.

missflick
01-12-2010, 12:56 AM
I think Jay will walk. He has made it very clear that he is not happy with what is going on. There are rumors that he is considering a offer from Fox.

You mean Conan?

Satellitegirl
01-12-2010, 02:46 PM
I hope Conan walks. He deserves better.

deltask8er
01-12-2010, 05:41 PM
I hope Conan walks. He deserves better.

Reminds me of that famous quote by Johnny Carson to Letterman in the early 1990s:


Obviously, Conan should watch The Late Shift. Not only is it directly relevant to his current predicament, it is littered with nuggets of advice that have magically become useful for him:

"[The deal] is not right. It's shoddy. They're giving you damaged goods."

"If I was treated this way, I would walk." --Johnny Carson advising Letterman

"They're not giving you the Johnny Carson Tonight Show...they're giving you The Jay Leno Show."

"How can a television show be worth all this embarrassment?"

"Fox is...well, Fox is Fox. They're three-quarters of a network at best."

"You can't follow Jay Leno for the rest of your life, you'll hate yourself."

http://www.avclub.com/articles/advice-for-conan-from-the-late-shift%2C36923/

Remember when Letterman's show was on NBC and he kept referring to the NBC/General Electric executives as 'pinheads'? Now, more than ever, we know Letterman wasn't exaggerating.


BTW, Wanda Sykes' show is on Fox. That could make an ugly predicament for Fox, too, if Conan moves there. http://www.fox.com/wanda/

Andora
01-12-2010, 05:50 PM
BTW, Wanda Sykes' show is on Fox. That could make an ugly predicament for Fox, too, if Conan moves there. http://www.fox.com/wanda/

Why? Because she'd be bumped? I read a month ago she was getting piss poor ratings.