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bobalina77
01-16-2010, 05:10 AM
I've never really understood what ACTION news was..

BYTCH
01-16-2010, 05:32 AM
The mud is being flung at Conan, how come it never gets thrown on Leno?

NBC Exec Slams Conan As 'Chicken-Hearted, Gutless' (http://tv.msn.com/the-wrap/ebersol-slams-conan/story/)

None of them seem to remember that the reason they came up with the 10 o'clock slot for Leno is because he announced 5 years ago he was leaving the Tonight Show. Now he wants it back? And who's what did Leno kiss that NBC gives him anything he wants? I guess Conan should have kissed it.

Allskate
01-16-2010, 07:05 AM
The mud is being flung at Conan, how come it never gets thrown on Leno?

NBC Exec Slams Conan As 'Chicken-Hearted, Gutless' (http://tv.msn.com/the-wrap/ebersol-slams-conan/story/)

People have been criticizing Leno, but this is from NBC. NBC has screwed over Conan, has reportedly already signed a contract with Leno to bring him back to "The Tonight Show," and Conan is probably going to another network to compete against Leno. So, is it really a surprise that an NBC exec is publicly trashing Conan?


Also the thing that bothers folks is that the staff/crews behind the scenes are the ones that are really screwed. Regardless of how one feels for Jay or Conan, if Jay & Conan have been responsible with their earnings to dated, I would assume they never need to work again to pay their rent like the rest of us.

If Conan gets a show on Fox, then his staff will all get jobs. I wouldn't be surprised if he pays them in the interim. I seem to recall that he paid everyone during the writers strike.

Latte
01-16-2010, 08:21 PM
Similar, but not quite as bad. My understanding is that Letterman was led to believe that the Tonight Show would be his and he stayed at NBC as a result instead of going to another network at 11:30. But, I don't think his contract actually promised him the Tonight Show. But, yeah, some of people definitely see this as a pattern. Whoopi Goldberg mentioned this when she was slamming NBC. I don't know about shady politicizing by Jay in that episode, though.

I wish I had seen Ricky Gervais on Conan. That must have been funny.

ETA: OMG. Kimmel was so brazen as a guest on Leno tonight. Just caught it on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FNmWFD4oWg

Kimmel made it pretty clear what he thinks of what Leno is doing, and he did it on Leno's own show. And it was funny, too! I would have loved to have heard Leno's reaction backstage after the show.


I saw it later on ET or one of those mag. shows. It probably was on all of them.
I loved it! Leno acted like he had just been hit with a rotten tomato and didn't know how to react!

KikiSashaFan
01-16-2010, 11:12 PM
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=250086448830&ref=nf

:lol: Team Conan all the way.

deltask8er
01-17-2010, 12:11 AM
:COP: :bribe:


January 16, 2010, 6:27 pm

O’Brien Talks Down to Final Details

By BILL CARTER

With negotiations to settle Conan O’Brien’s contract with NBC down to final details Saturday, attention shifted to others who will be affected by the breakup between the late-night star and the network.

And Mr. O’Brien’s manager, Gavin Polone, was eager to counter an item in the New York Post’s gossip column, Page Six, which said staff members on Mr. O’Brien’s “Tonight Show” were furious that they were losing their jobs in the dispute and that they had been overlooked in the settlement negotiations that could pay Mr. O’Brien tens of millions of dollars.

“The idea that the staff is not going to be taken care of is an outrageous lie,” Mr. Polone said. “Everyone in the negotiations knows that point number one in the discussions is and has been that the staff will be taken care of.”


http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/16/obrien-talks-down-to-final-details/

Conan O'Brien Strikes Departure Deal with NBC

http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/16/conan-obrien-jay-leno-the-tonight-show-nbc-announcement-settlement

From the various articles I've read:

* $30 million or more for Conan

* His staff will be compensated as well

* He can start another show on another network as early as this autumn

* Part of the settlement includes he's gotta stop publicly bashing NBC (it's getting old, anyway :blah: )

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Launching a show on Fox, however, is hardly a slam dunk. Fox's owned and affiliated stations are committed to syndicated fare (and in some cases, newscasts), at 11 p.m. Because stations have more ad time on those off-net laffers than on a network strip, clearing the show might be difficult at first.

But well-established late-night hosts like O'Brien come along perhaps once in a decade -- so Fox execs may decide that they better act now..

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118013893.html

NBC unveils 'Leno's' 10 p.m. replacements

http://www.variety.com/VR1118013791.html

reckless
01-17-2010, 12:36 AM
NBC unveils 'Leno's' 10 p.m. replacements

http://www.variety.com/VR1118013791.html
That is such a lame schedule that it will be very interesting to see what happens with Leno's ratings.

Right now, their 10 pm lead-ins are:

Monday: Law & Order (following Chuck and Trauma, neither of which has any decent ratings)
Tuesday: Parenthood (new show, following The Biggest Loser)
Wednesday: Law & Order: SVU (following a repeat of Law & Order: SVU at 9 and Mercy at 8 [Mercy actually scored below Leno on Wednesday in 18-49])
Thursday: The Marriage Ref (reality show from Jerry Seinfeld's production company)
Friday: Dateline NBC

Leno will benefit from returning to 11:30 after the Olympics, but the last Winter Olympics were a ratings loser and the other networks are going to air regular programming during the Olympics.

fenway2
01-17-2010, 01:38 AM
That is such a lame schedule that it will be very interesting to see what happens with Leno's ratings.

Right now, their 10 pm lead-ins are:

Monday: Law & Order (following Chuck and Trauma, neither of which has any decent ratings)
Tuesday: Parenthood (new show, following The Biggest Loser)
Wednesday: Law & Order: SVU (following a repeat of Law & Order: SVU at 9 and Mercy at 8 [Mercy actually scored below Leno on Wednesday in 18-49])
Thursday: The Marriage Ref (reality show from Jerry Seinfeld's production company)
Friday: Dateline NBC

Leno will benefit from returning to 11:30 after the Olympics, but the last Winter Olympics were a ratings loser and the other networks are going to air regular programming during the Olympics.

You know another reason NBC stinks? The network's best show is Friday Night Lights. It made multiple "Best Shows of the Decade" lists (including the AFI list) & yet, they bury it on DirecTV & on their summer schedule. They'd rather air Law & Order twice a week than FNL once?!?! Jeff Zucker, you are so clueless.

deltask8er
01-19-2010, 05:13 PM
I was surprised Conan did a new show Monday. I thought his show would just be in reruns until the Olympics.

http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/


Jeff Zucker On Late Night Shuffle: "We've Made the Right Business Decision"

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Jeff-Zucker-Late-1013966.aspx

ETA: Conan placed a weird ad at craigslist :rofl:


- Tall, slender redhead available for nighttime recreation.

- 6'4", completely ripped, VERY Caucasian.

- Currently homeless, must meet at your place.

- Can go a whole hour (with scheduled breaks every 7-10 minutes)

- Not afraid to take two people at once, and then a musical guest.

- NOTE: If you want me to perform after midnight, it'll cost you!

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cas/1559715648.html

genevieve
01-19-2010, 05:49 PM
responding to a question many pages ago, I almost always watch the 11pm news. I don't watch it at any other time during the day. Regarding passivity (reckless' point), I often just watch the newscast of the network I was just watching, unless there's a reason to change (our ABC affiliate is usually the only one to cover WNBA game highlights in the summer for instance), but CBS is the newscast I like most. If there's not a show at 10pm that I am really interested in, I often leave whatever channel on while I'm dorking around, getting ready for bed, whatever - but now that I've been watching some NBC shows I switch at 10pm no matter what. I've never found Leno amusing, engaging or funny...he will actually motivate me to turn the tv off completely if there's nothing good on at 10 (even if I would have watched the shows on other channels if I'd been watching the shows preceding). ITA with reckless that Leno's show at 10pm has had a big impact on Conan's low ratings on the Tonight Show.

Allskate
01-19-2010, 11:56 PM
I agree that Leno's weak ratings hurt Conan.

It seems that NBC still has not come to terms with Conan on his exit from NBC. Reports are that he is insisting on severance pay for his staff and this is holding up an agreement.

NBC/Zucker are defending their decision to give Conan The Tonight Show on the grounds that it kept him at NBC and prevented him from going to a competitor, but now says it was a mistake and it would be wrong not to correct it. Basically, it seems like NBC wanted to have their cake and eat it, too. Help Jay and NBC by keeping Conan from going elsewhere. Then, when the time came, screw Conan and give him to the boot in order to make even more money now.

numbers123
01-20-2010, 01:36 AM
I've never really understood what ACTION news was..

The ability to shout ACTION with every commerical break, every other minute, all the promos..

ACTION NEWS, ACTION WEATHER, ACTION SPORTS with no actual ACTION by the newscasters?

smurfy
01-20-2010, 01:35 PM
Plus have you noticed on local news they are so busy telling you an updated on a story that they told you about FIRST.

Other than the weather and for sports (I am in CT - UConn sports updates), I do not watch local news, they just annoy me.

Rex
01-20-2010, 01:50 PM
Rosie O'Donnell has been really hard on Jay Leno in the press too....so many of the H'wood blogs I read have also taken him to task. Leno is really taking it on the chin.....

Well, it's not like he can't take it ;).

pixie cut
01-21-2010, 02:09 PM
Rosie O'Donnell has been really hard on Jay Leno in the press too....so many of the H'wood blogs I read have also taken him to task.

Rosie was rightfully upset when Leno first became host of The Tonight Show in 1992 and reneged on the understanding she would guest host on a regular basis. He had, after all, been Carson's full-time guest host for several years before getting the host spot. Before Leno and Joan Rivers, Johnny Carson was quite generous with comedians and gave them chances to guest host. It was a way to give them a chance to become more high profile. Rosie has said Leno liked to keep things to himself and was paranoid about sharing. So she has a pre-existing grudge against him, and it seems quite justified.

In the case of this whole Conan O'Brien mess, I don't know why Leno is at any fault. He was number one. He was in that spot for years. Why should he have opened the door for O'Brien to take over his job? Why should he have quietly gone into the sunset. He's 59, not 79. He's good at what he does. He was also quite loyal to his employers, NBC, and did whatever was asked of them.

I think Jeff Zucker is the one at fault. He wanted all the players and was unable to take a stand. Either he should have risked O'Brien walking and let Leno, the guy who was number one in the 11:30 spot for years and years stay or he should have committed whole heartedly to O'Brien and let Leno take a job elsewhere in late night. He acted on panic and paranoia on all fronts and he's lost on all fronts.