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michiruwater
12-22-2009, 05:09 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if an eating disorder could possibly put strain on the pancreas, killing islet cells and creating type II diabetes.

IceAlisa
12-22-2009, 05:26 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if an eating disorder could possibly put strain on the pancreas, killing islet cells and creating type II diabetes.

I am not aware of any evidence of that. I am continuously surprised at people coming up with medical theories of their own on this thread. :confused: What is known to create type 2 diabetes in young individuals is obesity. It is now seen in children who are obese along with hypertension and cardiac risk factors previously seen mostly in mature adults. It's very sad.

However, it seems that type 1 diabetes appears to be a risk factor for eating disorders in adolescents, not that any of it is relevant to the topic of the thread.

IceAlisa
12-22-2009, 05:27 PM
That the coroner is keeping his ass covered?

Or that there is no obvious cause of death revealed on the autopsy? That would be a simpler explanation instead of a coroner conspiracy theory.


No matter what the cause of death, it's sad to see it happen to someone who's only had 1/2 to 1/3 of a normal lifespan. Of course.

MacMadame
12-22-2009, 06:31 PM
I associate Type II diabetes with obesity.

I haven't read that she had Type II. Just "diabetes". The extreme thinness is definitely something you see with a lot of people who have Type 1 Diabetes so that seems more likely to me.

martian_girl
12-22-2009, 06:31 PM
I didn't know Brittany had some accomplishments in the music industry...

http://new.ca.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/99273/rip-brittany-murphy/

I just remembered that I had "Faster Kill Pussycat" on my I-Pod. I was rather shocked that that was her.

smurfy
12-22-2009, 07:14 PM
The fact the coroner is not stating anything until the tox study (which does take up to 2 months) is SOP.
With my relative, we were told after the intial autopsy, nothing was conclusive and we had to wait 7 weeks for the tox/other studies.
After 7 weeks we learned it was cancer - a natural cause. Science is advanced, but not as quick as we think.
Doesn't mean there is a coverup.

Anita18
12-22-2009, 07:16 PM
I haven't read that she had Type II. Just "diabetes". The extreme thinness is definitely something you see with a lot of people who have Type 1 Diabetes so that seems more likely to me.
An aunt of mine keeps a regimented diabetic diet even though she doesn't have the condition - she believes it's the best diet for you (less glucose spikes and falls) and that's why she follows it. And she's friggin' scarily TINY. I can't imagine how it would be like for someone who really had the condition and actually had to carefully watch what they were eating.

IceAlisa
12-22-2009, 07:46 PM
I haven't read that she had Type II. Just "diabetes". The extreme thinness is definitely something you see with a lot of people who have Type 1 Diabetes so that seems more likely to me.

People whose type 1 is extremely poorly managed are super thin. Otherwise, there is no reason to be underweight. Also, diabetic supplies were not mentioned among meds recovered at her home.

Maximillian
12-22-2009, 08:04 PM
I think that judging by the incredible weight loss that Murphy went through between Clueless and Girl, Interrupted it would be naive to suggest that it occured because of diabetes (also I think she might have mentioned it in light of the constant buzz around her regarding drug abuse and eating disorders.).

missflick
12-22-2009, 08:54 PM
Coroner has launched a probe over Murphy leak:
http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/b159219_coroner_launches_probe_over_brittany.html

Badams
12-22-2009, 09:34 PM
these meds were found at her house, according to TMZ:

According to the notes, the medications included Topamax (anti-seizure meds also to prevent migraines), Methylprednisolone (anti-inflammatory), Fluoxetine (depression med), Klonopin (anxiety med), Carbamazepine (treats Diabetic symptoms and is also a bipolar med), Ativan (anxiety med), Vicoprofen (pain reliever), Propranolol (hypertension, used to prevent heart attacks), Biaxin (antibiotic), Hydrocodone (pain med) and miscellaneous vitamins.

a type 1 diabetic would not take Carbamazepine to treat diabetes. a type 1 would use insulin.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/brittany-murphy-coroner-report-prescription-pills-bottles-nightstand-topamax-simon-monjack-sharon-rescue-effort-drugs-investigation/

my little pony
12-22-2009, 09:38 PM
carbamazepine is not an oral diabetes medication like metformin or actos

Badams
12-22-2009, 09:50 PM
i have never heard of Carbamazepine, so i looked it up.
Carbamazepine has been reported to decrease urine output and increase urinary concentration in patients with diabetes insipidus.
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/200/1/95.abstract


Diabetes insipidus is a condition in which the kidneys are unable to conserve water.
https://health.google.com/health/ref/Diabetes+insipidus

some articles that i have read claim her mother said she had type 2 though.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thehumancondition/archive/2009/12/21/brittany-murphy-type-2-diabetes-and-cardiac-arrest-speculation-and-science.aspx

cruisin
12-22-2009, 11:22 PM
these meds were found at her house, according to TMZ:

According to the notes, the medications included Topamax (anti-seizure meds also to prevent migraines), Methylprednisolone (anti-inflammatory), Fluoxetine (depression med), Klonopin (anxiety med), Carbamazepine (treats Diabetic symptoms and is also a bipolar med), Ativan (anxiety med), Vicoprofen (pain reliever), Propranolol (hypertension, used to prevent heart attacks), Biaxin (antibiotic), Hydrocodone (pain med) and miscellaneous vitamins.

a type 1 diabetic would not take Carbamazepine to treat diabetes. a type 1 would use insulin.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/brittany-murphy-coroner-report-prescription-pills-bottles-nightstand-topamax-simon-monjack-sharon-rescue-effort-drugs-investigation/

It doesn't say if all of them were hers.

That's quite a mix. Topamax is also used as an anti-psychotic, anti-anxiety, and an anti-depressant. It is used (sometimes) in combination with Prozac (fluoxetine). Ativan is heavy stuff. I had it prescribed for anxiety one time. I took one, and was completely out of it for the whole day. I tossed the rest. That list has an awful lot of overlap drugs.

They also mention episodes of hypoglycemia. That could also be unmanaged diabetes. My dad would sometimes become extremely hypoglycemic, when he took more insulin than he should. Very dangerous.

Wiery
12-23-2009, 12:02 AM
carbamazepine is an anti-convulsive; its labeled usage is for various types of epilepsy. Off label use is for diabetes. Klonopin is a benzodiazepine anticonvulsive. Topamax is an anticonvulsive. These three meds are prescribed for various types of seizure disorders/epilepsy.

Methylprednisolone is a synthetic glucocorticoid used as an anti-inflammitory or immunosuppresive agent. Fluoxetine is an ssri; labeled uses are: Bulimia Nervosa, Depression, Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, Panic Disorder, Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder. Vicoprofen is an opiate agonist; labeled use is for pain. Propranolol is a beta blocker, labeled uses are for angina, essential tremor, hypertension, migraine prevention (shortened-list for labeled uses is quite long). Biaxin is a macrolide given for bacterial infection, hydrocodone is an opiate agonist given for pain.

source: medscape/drug reference: http://search.medscape.com/all-search