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Frau Muller
06-14-2010, 02:03 PM
Oh BTW, I say Vanessa Zamarripa because ......

I believe that the current World Champion, Kayla Williams of Huntington, WV, is America's (and the World's) A#1 vaulting lady for the next quadrennium. Zamarripa's bad luck. :D

BigB08822
06-14-2010, 04:16 PM
Williams seems to have a lot of issues which include finding a gym willing to take her. I know she has things worked out for now but there is no guarantee how long it will work out. Zamarripa has great lines and form on her vaults that she did at NCAA to win the vault title. If she can do the difficulty with that form then she could oust Williams from the top vaulter spot.

chipso1
06-14-2010, 04:41 PM
I believe that the current World Champion, Kayla Williams of Huntington, WV, is America's (and the World's) A#1 vaulting lady for the next quadrennium. Zamarripa's bad luck. :D

Except that Williams missed three months of training this past spring. To be honest, I would be surprised to see her in London in 2012. With the 5-member team format for the next Olympics, I don't think any team can afford to take a one-event-only gymnast. At least Sacramone is able to do beam and (possibly) floor exercise, and can fill in on those events should someone get injured.

ilovepaydays
06-14-2010, 05:41 PM
USA Gymnastics: Justin Spring got married on May 29. (http://www.usa-gymnastics.org/pages/post.html?PostID=5610&prog=m)

Nice wedding photos. Congrats to the couple. I hope Spring is enjoying college coaching.

LKR
06-15-2010, 06:23 AM
I think Nastia coming back will depend a lot on how the US looks at Worlds this year, there is such a huge hole on bars that if she came back for just UB/BB, she'd be on the team no matter what.


Agreed but Nastia will not be coming back this year.



Nice wedding photos. Congrats to the couple. I hope Spring is enjoying college coaching.

Wonderful to see. I actually met his wife in Dallas at last year's Visa Championships and she is lovely.

chipso1
06-15-2010, 05:52 PM
Anna Li, a member of the NCAA champion UCLA Bruins gymnastics team, is reportedly coming back to elite. If she can upgrade a bit on bars, I think she has a fantastic shot at making the team. I know she can do a very nice Gienger release, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LY5zLp30-0

^^Pause the video at :19 seconds and check out the height on her Tkachev! Definitely the biggest I've ever seen! :eek:

Here's one of her perfect 10.0 UB routines from this spring: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE-xvn2E6FM

VIETgrlTerifa
06-15-2010, 07:07 PM
Do we desperately need great UB workers like we did last quad?

BigB08822
06-16-2010, 03:03 AM
I know to never say never but I don't see Li making a very big impact. We do not have some gigantic hole to fill on UB that means we will take someone JUST for that event (barring injuries). We already have nice scoring potential on UB and I doubt Li will be able to even be a top 3 scorer on that event, much less big enough of a score to justify taking her for 1 event only. I don't see her impacting on any other events.

chipso1
06-16-2010, 03:16 AM
The Chinese have one bar worker (Kexin) that can score in the 16's, and a plethora of other girls who usually go 15.4+ (Yuyuan, Linlin, Quishuang and Yilin if she ever gets back to form).

The U.S. currently has Bross, who usually averages 15.250, give or take a tenth. Sloan only managed 14.6, 14.8 and 14.6 at Worlds last year (prelims, AA final, UB final). Caquatto has the potential to score high, but I believe the highest she's managed this season is 14.675.

Hunter, Williams, Raisman, etc are virtually useless on UB during a 3 up-3 count format.

While I agree that Anna Li won't be considered for the team if UB is her only good event, I disagree that "we don't have some gigantic hole to fill." Right off the bat, the U.S. team starts at about a 1.5 point deficit to the Chinese on bars...maybe even more. :shuffle:

Choupette
06-16-2010, 03:47 AM
One thing I appreciate when watching gymnastics live is that, in my opinion, you get a better appreciation for the difficulty of what they are doing. The gymnasts always seem to "float" on TV to me, as if the law of gravity was somehow more forgiving. The fact that you also see gymnasts who have a little more problems on some of the event also make you appreciate how amazing the best ones have to be.

As for where to sit, yes, the middle is probably a good place. I believe I remember the vault not always being at the same end from one competition to another.

I concur that figure skating is a better sport to watch live than gymnastics, because except for the floor, the action takes place within a limited volume! I also agree that it's better to choose beforehand who you absolutely want to see and enjoy their performances instead of trying to see everyone at the same time, although when the favorites aren't performing, I enjoy being able to shift from one event to another. There is very little down time and that is also fun! :)

LKR
06-16-2010, 04:52 AM
I know to never say never but I don't see Li making a very big impact. We do not have some gigantic hole to fill on UB that means we will take someone JUST for that event (barring injuries). We already have nice scoring potential on UB and I doubt Li will be able to even be a top 3 scorer on that event, much less big enough of a score to justify taking her for 1 event only. I don't see her impacting on any other events.

This could actually happen. While Li is certainly a wildcard (especially when it comes to staying healthy), the team has room for any top three bar worker. In fact, this is even true when the team goes down to five members in 2012. What helps potential bar specialists such as Li or Liukin is that the United States is loaded with good all-arounders and gymnasts who are strong on 2 or 3 events. An Olympic team of Weiber, Bross, Sloan, and Raisman/Sacramone/Ross would do a good job of filling up all the spots in team finals besides a bar spot. Thus, someone could actually just go for bars. Although Martha likes her all-arounders, she sent Hatch in '04 when our vault situation was nowhere near as dire as our bar situation is now. Last quad the U.S. only had China to worry about, but this quad the U.S. will have two teams (China and Russia) that they will be trailing behind on that event.

BigB08822
06-16-2010, 05:04 AM
What is Memmel doing? Isn't she still thinking of doing bars and maybe one other event? I can't remember but she could probably still score 15 plus if she gets her old difficulty back. Of course, injuries are a huge issue with someone her age and just for her in general. I know it COULD be bad but I just feel the U.S. will be good enough on bars that they will not be taking someone for JUST bars. It will have to be someone who can contribute on at least one other, if not two other, events if needed. We saw what could happen in Beijing, Marta will not risk taking someone like Li for just one event unless she can score 16+ and we all know she can't do that. There will only be 5 members in London. If anyone is taken for ONLY bars, it will be Liukin or some other wonder kid who suddenly comes out of no where who can score at or above 16.

I am not saying the US isn't behind China (or Russia for that matter) on bars. They ARE. I am just speculating that the US will not be in such dire straights as to take one person for one event who will probably be doing well to break 15. That is all.

LKR
06-16-2010, 05:08 AM
Aunt Joyce had reported that Memmel is retiring.

BTW I don't think it is likely that the U.S. will send someone for one event to the Games, but it is a possibility IMO.

BigB08822
06-16-2010, 05:19 AM
Thanks LKR. I am upset to hear she is retiring but that is just me being selfish. I have loved Memmel for a long time. She never had the best form but I've rarely seen someone with her competitiveness. She was an absolutely rock when USA needed her. I hope she enjoys whatever she goes into.

judgejudy27
06-16-2010, 06:08 AM
I feel badly for Memmel that she had such bad luck in Olympics. Atleast she got to go to Beijing, compete on the floor a couple times (even if just doing 2 bar routines) and wear an Olympic medal around her neck.

I cant imagine her having a hope for London though even if she did return. At this point she probably could only contribute on bars, and it is not like her bars would even be enormous scoring. I just dont see her being someone they would use 1 out of now only 5 slots on, even with the teams need on bars.

For that matter I dont share chipso's optimism on Sacramone finding a place for herself on the team so easily again.